Just heard Peter White say "0870 .................. Around 8 pence a minute."

That was their own number!

juby

I would have thought that anything which gives publicity to the amount charged by dialing that number is good for our cause.

Especially if it is on Y&Y.

Basically it was Peter White rebelling against his employers, not the first time.

juby

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No, but can you sum up the whole scam in a couple of words? Obviously not.

So mention of a rough price is better than nothing. The price of any number varies according to provider. Hopefully this sort of pricing information will help promote the numbers for what they are; premium rate.

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But, by definition, they are premium rate as they cost more to call than geographical landlines! I think it is fair to assume that the destination is a fixed landline.

To quote a price which, in general, is the same across different providers, it is also fair to assume that they are premium rate.

I agree with you, whether they cost 1p or £1.50, they are premium rate as the called party benefits. But the cost of the call itself is the most important thing, a point which many 090 providers make, but don't always state that they benefit.

Happened to have the radio on at 12 noon today when You and Yours started they had an article about something and then gave out their telephone number it started 0800 does this mean they have changed their number/policy or was this a special occasion?

You and Yours confirmed today that the program's 0800 number applies every day. The exception is for "Call You and Yours" day when you have to use 0870, but in defence they said they would call you straight back to minimise the cost.

This came at the end of another supportive piece about the iniquity of 0870.

Basically they came out and backed the position that 0870 and 0845 should be charged the same as national and local rates.

Various comments were made about Government procurement being completely taken in by the providers and not even negotiating the taxpayers a cut of the shareable revenue!!!!

They interviewed Paul Tyler (North Cornwall MP), who seems to have got about 50 MPs to support him. Although the opportunity was missed to highlight the bigger 084/087 problem - he ignored the fact that the new 0844 numbers for doctors' surgeries won't be much cheaper than 0870.

To me, there seems to be three main issues which still need to be communicated clearly:

1. The problem covers 0844 and 0871, as well as 0845 and 0870

2. The problem centres around the exclusion of these numbers from call packages, not just government or public bodies' use of them

3. Contributors to this forum have said that number diversion (eg to various call centres around the country) can be done with a piece of electronic kit, without the need for an 087/084 number. How much and from whom? As this is one of the most common defences used by companies and govt departments.

Does anyone know when OFCOM is going to publish its plan, if ever?

(edited to correct MP's name)

Hi dorf

Thanks for this - so do they just contact BT (or whoever)to have the calls diverted?

My original post was to defend Y&Y.

What have you who knocked Y&Y got to say now?

I got an e-mail form Ottelo this morning. And a sort of an apology.

It gave me all their geog. numbers.

Come on guys We have won!!

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