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Responses to Ofcom consultation hit 1,159
Oct 20^th, 2005 at 12:05pm

You can read the comments made to Ofcom on 0870 and 0845 numbers here:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/

When you've read what others are saying, set aside five minutes to e-mail your own comments to: nts@ofcom.org.uk

Or send comments to:
Clive Hillier
Competition and Markets
Fourth Floor
Ofcom
Riverside House
2A Southwark Bridge Road
London SE1 9HA.

Fax: 020 7783 4103

There were 59 comments by midday 24th October.

(Thanks to idb and joe65 for identifying this information in other threads. In case anyone has missed it I thought it needed to be highlighted in a new topic.)

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gdh82 Full Member Offline Posts: 226	Re: Read the public's comments to Ofcom here... Reply #1 - Oct 20^th, 2005 at 3:41pm Thanks, AJR, this thread is a really good idea. Seeing other people's comments gives you confidence and reminds you there are many more people out there who consider these 0870 calls to be excessively expensive and misleadingly marketed. I'll be making my thoughts known - for sure
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Reply #2 - Oct 20^th, 2005 at 4:09pm

Hey AJR, There's something faulty with the link.
If I follow it I still see the original list of only about 12 responses.
Wondering why no more had been posted in the last few days, I found if you delete the last :-
"/?a=87101" bit you can see twice as many (currently ~25).
Try it:-
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/

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AJR Full Member Offline Posts: 107	Re: Read the public's comments to Ofcom here... Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2005 at 5:55pm Thanks, Joe65 - I've changed the link.
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joe65 Full Member Offline Posts: 143	Re: Read the public's comments to Ofcom here... Reply #4 - Oct 20^th, 2005 at 6:19pm The dodgy link seems to have originated from OfCom's website, where I guess it was copied from. Eg at the very bottom of this page :- http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward I've sent a message to their Webmaster, though I guess they won't get it fixed as quick as our 24/7 operation.
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mc661 Senior Member Offline Habitual FOI requester. Posts: 432 West-Norfolk Gender:	Re: Read the public's comments to Ofcom here... Reply #5 - Oct 21^st, 2005 at 1:29am having read them all, I liked rdfeltham response. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/rdfeltham.pdf I have sent in my response, I notice it hasnt been published, I will follow it up why.
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Reply #6 - Oct 21^st, 2005 at 1:09pm

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Hey AJR, There's something faulty with the link.
If I follow it I still see the original list of only about 12 responses.
Wondering why no more had been posted in the last few days, I found if you delete the last :-
"/?a=87101" bit you can see twice as many (currently ~25).
Try it:-
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/

The original link is fine as long as the browser is refreshed however I agree that the alternative quoted is much neater. I have no idea what suffix /?a=87101 means - perhaps someone can advise?

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joe65 Full Member Offline Posts: 143	Re: Read the public's comments to Ofcom here... Reply #7 - Oct 21^st, 2005 at 4:45pm The Browser Refresh button didn't do it. The guy at Ofcom came back this morning though, recommending the 'Ctrl +F5' refresh, which indeed duid the trick.
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DesG Newbie Offline Posts: 33	Re: Read the public's comments to Ofcom here... Reply #8 - Oct 22^nd, 2005 at 3:38pm 37 responses now, glad to see mine there! Is there any chance we can get the responses into the hundreds or thousands? Cheers, Des.
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Reply #9 - Oct 24^th, 2005 at 11:26pm

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Is there any chance we can get the responses into the hundreds or thousands?

Quite agree, Des. I wonder is there any chance that this site could do a mailout to its 4,800+ registered forum members not only inviting them to have their say in this consultation but also encouraging them to email their friends, relatives or colleagues to do likewise?

Must be worth a try?
That way numbers really could increase!

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Garry

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Reply #10 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 6:20pm

Of the now is it about 111 Responses published so far, why is it that only 1 (from Norfolk Trading Standards) appears to be from anything other than private individuals ?
Are the industry being coy with their responses ?

It's now getting very hard to recognise new responses, from the alphabetic layout of the OfCom Responses page.

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Reply #11 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 6:40pm

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Why is it that only one response (from Norfolk Trading Standards) appears to be from anything other than private individuals ? Are the industry being coy with their responses ?

Good point, Joe65. So much for an open discussion!

Perhaps the telecoms industry have opted to keep their responses confidential? Can such a choice be made ? (I remember certain individuals making a point that their response is NOT confidential).

As for the alphabetical ordering, I agree again that it does make it hard work deciphering which are the latest responses etc. Ideally it would be useful if Ofcom gave the user the ability to list by name and by date received. Then again, it wouldn't be Ofcom if it was clear and intelligible!!!! Wink

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Reply #12 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:00pm

I've just thought of another idea to keep track of the responses so far. Perhaps we could create a new thread (similar to this) which lists the respondee and which once clicked takes you to their response.

e.g A Cade points to
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/cade.pdf

I wouldn't mind having a go at this (when I've got the time!) but how do you create a word which itself is a link.

Any assistance with the know-how would be appreciated!

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Reply #13 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:52pm

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Perhaps we could create a new thread (similar to this) which lists the respondee and which once clicked takes you to their response.

e.g A Cade points to
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/cade.pdf

Garry,
Isn't that exactly what the Responses page at OfCom does :-
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/responses/
eg.
A. Cade ?
What is it that could be added by replicating that here ?
I have distilled the 111 URLs out of OfComs Responses page, but I don't see how we can make it any easier to find New Responses . Perhaps you could explain a little more.
This B.B. only lets me post about a third of them though [otherwise the list's too long]
I'll remove it Dave, if it's a problem...
A Cade
A Cain
A Grant
A Lee
A Morgan
A Ross
A Welby
A Wood
B Dalton
B Fuller
B Gardner
B Gardner
B Houghton
B Ray
B Woodroffe
C Gardner
C Hillyard Melia
C Scott
D A Boughton
D Abbott
D Butcher
D Lawton
D MacPhail
D McClymont
D Munday
D Murray
D Rose
D Stening
D White
E Ekevall
F Auld

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dorf Supreme Member Offline I hate Qs on Premium NGNs Posts: 575 UK Gender:	Re: Read the public's 59 comments to Ofcom here... Reply #14 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 8:17pm The completely weird thing is though surely that the order is relative to Christian names only. Trust Ofcom to be completely out of step with the rest of the world?
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