kk wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2006 at 11:51am:
“Nobody on this site should get an 084/7 number because by doing so you only make matters worse by ensuring that the middle men in the industry like BT and Robo Telecom yet further increase their bank balances with the enhanced earnings they get on every 084/7 NTS call that is originated/terminated on their network. You may possibly get a tiny amount of revenue yourself (although the free 0870 numbers you can get generally don't pay you anything but just offer free call redirection to landlines of your choice) but you absolutely will be adding to the overall coffers of the 084/7 scammers.
While this may be true, the objective is to hurt the bank balances of the companies that force us to pay a premium to contact them, usually to sort out a problem of their creation. It may not do much, but it's the feelgood factor of doing them over, however small.
kk wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2006 at 11:51am:
Personally I prefer to lead by example by only ever giving usually my landline or occasionally my mobile phone number depending on where I need to be contacted. If we simply join the scam ourselves we have lost all of the moral high ground (something which I think Daniel the forum owner himself often misses the point on with certain prominent banner adds for sites like:
www.winthecash.couk/GrabAGrand that have recently featured on this website)
You know, I didn't even notice this ad until you mentioned it (and went looking for it!)
kk wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2006 at 11:51am:
As to thinking people in these call centres know or care you are giving them an 0870/1 number most call centre staff seem to be sufficiently brain dead that they don't have the intellectual capacity to understand what the whole 0870/1 scam is about in the first place. I suppose their directors may possibly eventually notice the irony if they find a lot of 0870/1 calls on their own outgoing phone bill to customers though.
And, this is the point, n'est pas?
kk wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2006 at 11:51am:
In any event when staff in these call centres offer to call you back they are usually trying to do you a favour and are not responsible for the 0870/1 number existing themselves. Whereas you giving them an 0870/1 number tends to make you look every bit as bad as them the call centre.
This seems to contradict the previous paragraph. When the battery hen in the call centre offers to phone you back, they don't care what phone number you give them, and would be oblivious that you're giving them a number that would cost their employer a premium to dial. Besides, the premium isn't coming out of their pockets! They're also probably told to give out the "it only costs the same as a local/national rate call" mantra anyway if they are themselves queried on the 08* number used to dial them in the first place. And if they are 08*-scam aware, they may even welcome the chance to get their own back on their employers!
kk wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2006 at 11:51am:
“I agree with the last post. It is totally absurd for anybody who genuinely believes in the evil nature of 0871, 0870, 0845 and 0844 (and 070) to contemplate acquiring one. To use them, is to support them.
There's the evil nature of 08*, and there's the evil nature of the companies that exploit 08*. It's the latter that's being targeted here.
kk wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2006 at 11:51am:
If you wish to make money, be honest, and get an “09" number.
The objective isn't to make money as such, but to increase the costs of the 08* (ab)users.
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