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Message started by localhost on Apr 21st, 2004 at 12:30pm

Title: Dial-up ISPs with geographical numbers
Post by localhost on Apr 21st, 2004 at 12:30pm
Hello all,
  i'm new to this site so 'hello everyone!'.
     I'm trying to find an ISP, any ISP that i can call from my mobile starting with the numbers 01. if anyone could help i'd be most appreciative,
  thanks, *local  :)

~ Threads merged and title edited by Dave

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by DaveM on Apr 21st, 2004 at 4:01pm
Have a go with these, all gleaned from this site:-

BTInternet.      0121 4789200
Virgin Net.       01483 881766
Tesco Net.       01256 758717
Pipex.              0207 9061000
Easynet.          0207 9001111

I realise that the last two are 02 but I guess that you meant "Geo" numbers instead of "Non-Geo" numbers.
I haven't had a chance to try them out myself yet but I hope to soon.

Please leave a message here on the site if you test it with your mobile phone and get it working OK. I'm sure that others would like to try it as well.

Anyone else got any ISP Dial-up numbers PLEASE!
I'm STILL looking for the Brightview (Freenetname and Waitrose) Dial-up number if anyone can help.

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by localhost on Apr 23rd, 2004 at 10:13am
Thanks Dave,
  I'll try some of those numbers very soon.
   If i come accross any more i'll post them on here.
        thanks again, *local

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by Andy Cole on May 9th, 2004 at 9:47pm
Eurobell 01293 440312

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by Anon on Jul 19th, 2004 at 9:53pm
Doesn't BT have a whole lost of these numbers?

I remember dialling the BT internet 0121 number and getting charged 6p per hour, although they decided before they sent my bill that they would charge me for the standard rate rather than the discounted 6p per hour one that I was entitled to and so I got a rather large bill  >:(

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by DaveM on Jul 20th, 2004 at 1:09am
Yes, BT have a list of the ISP's as you'd expect, and they penalise anyone on the inclusive plans by charging the normal price. If you're lucky, you may get away with the 5.5p/hour rate, but probably you'll end up paying full whack.   :-/

If you have one of the other Telco's it is totally different, and you'd find your inclusive plan will allow all calls to 01 and 02 prefix ISPs.
You could always try using 18866 at ½p/minute, but I suggest changing to someone like OneTel would be the best. :)

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by Dave on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 12:03am
The basic idea of these numbers is that they translate to geographic numbers, so does this cover these Internet numbers aswell?


wrote on Apr 21st, 2004 at 4:01pm:
BTInternet.      0121 4789200

As Broadband seems to be down here at the mo, I've tried this number and it connects (username and password verifies OK). It won't download any data though! I've tried some successive numbers and they give invalid username or password. 0121 4789300 verifies username and password, but won't allow any data to be downloaded. Anyone tried anymore of these numbers sucessfully?

Are these numbers really exempt from BT Together?

Title: British Telecon does it again
Post by Dave on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 12:16am
Just found this page which says that 0121 478 9300 is for ISDN.

It also says that CLI is required. As these numbers are for international use (because 0845 can't be dialled from abroad), maybe they block any calls from the UK (+44).

I've just found this page on BT's site which confirms that these numbers are excluded from the so called "discount" packages.  :-X


wrote on May 9th, 2004 at 9:47pm:
BTInternet.      0121 4789200
Virgin Net.       01483 881766
Tesco Net.       01256 758717
Pipex.              0207 9061000
Easynet.          0207 9001111


wrote on May 9th, 2004 at 9:47pm:
Eurobell 01293 440312

All of the above are listed on the ISP exclusion list.  :-X

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by DaveM on Aug 3rd, 2004 at 1:51am

Quote:
All of the above are listed on the ISP exclusion list.
I don't care if they're on BT's exclusion list or not. It doesn't matter if you don't have a BT inclusive account & I would guess that most of you with any sense have found a better deal. My call providers' inclusive plan allows ALL 01/02 calls.
Alternatively you could use 18866 with these numbers on a BT line and thereby reduce the cost.


Quote:
Just found this page which says that 0121 478 9300 is for ISDN.
I use the 0121 4789200 (& the others) on ISDN and modem (for the moment . . . changing to ADSL SOON !! ;D ) and they work fine. I'll test the new number though to see it's any better on my ISDN line.

Title: Re: anyone know any ISP's starting with 01 - thank
Post by Roderick Howie on Aug 10th, 2004 at 10:36pm
I can confirm that Talktalk charge off peak calls to the Virgin Net (mentioned above) geographic number at the fixed rate of 5 pence per minute. By putting this number as a Calling Circle number and as a Prime Number, you can get 70 minutes of off peak sufing for 3.75 pence. Combine this with 18866's daytime rate of 0.5 pence per minute and who would go for an unlimited dial up package?

Title: land lines for ISPs
Post by tony900r on Oct 1st, 2004 at 4:28pm
Anyone had any success getting their ISP's land line to use to connect to instead of the 08xx number?

>:( ???

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Oct 2nd, 2004 at 12:55am
I recently had to re-test the ISP numbers since Virgin decided to change theirs.

These are the results that I found from various sources & many thanks to those that provided the info.










































AngliaNet      01473 407010        X
AOL      020 83387444        X
Ars€nalNet      020 78966787        @
BreatheNet      020 78966787        @
BTConnect      0121 7629011        #
BTInternet      0121 4789200        #
BTInternet      0121 4789300        #
Cable Internet      020 79166550        #
Cable & Wireless      020 84900577        X
CallnetUK      01344 102013        @
CanaryConnect      01223 509047        &
ClaraNet      020 79066161        X
ClaraNet      020 79055151        X
Compuserve      020 75795100        #
Connect4Free      01344 102013        @
Demon      020 76640666        X
Easynet      0207 9001111        #
Egg      020 78966787        @
EidosNet      020 79001111        #
Eurobell      01392 204203        #
Eurobell      01293 440312        #
Express Online      020 77155820        X
FreeDotNet      020 86366000        X
Gateway      020 79061000        #
LineOne      020 77155820        X
ManUFree.net      020 79061000        #
Netcom      01603 444446        X
Netgates      0117 9073000        X
Orange.net      020 79061000        #
Photoshot      020 79061000        #
Pipex      020 79061000        #
Sniff Out      01344 102013        @
Tesco.net      01256 758717        #
TheFreeInternet      020 86367399        X
U-Net      01925 491111        X
Virgin.net      01483 881766        &
Wanadoo/Freeserve        0808 9916001        #£
Wanadoo/Freeserve        0808 9916080        #£
Wanadoo/Freeserve        0808 9916163        #£
Wanadoo/Freeserve        0808 9916164        #£
Zetnet      0161 3330005        #


     
     


#        Works OK
@        Constantly Busy
X        No longer functional      
&        Rings but NO Answer
£


     Must be prefixed with 1470
 to reveal your Caller ID
(if you have it with-held)


Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by triggerhippie on Oct 6th, 2004 at 9:46am
Hi there

Maybe I am wrong but I have just signed up for EidosNet and their website www.eidosnet.co.uk give the 0845 number which connects OK but the landline specified does not.

Has anyone had this problem/got a workaround for this ?

Many thanks


Adeel

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Oct 6th, 2004 at 4:14pm
One reason for this is that, as you can see from the list above, some numbers are used by multiple ISP's.

This means that to keep domains separate, you have to include in the login ID the domain you are associated with. I won't get too technical but that's the simple version.  For example . . .

fbloggs@easynet.co.uk  or fbloggs@eidosnet.co.uk

That's how it works with the larger providers such as Brightview who supply many ISP services.

See if that works for you.  ;D

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by triggerhippie on Oct 13th, 2004 at 9:42pm
Ok, so I'm being super picky and begging to be flamed but........




...any possibility of including the links to the list as some are impossible to sign up to (poor home page design !)


Just a thought.  ;)



(Incidentally, I tried eidosnet again but again with no success. Has anyone else tried setting up a new account here ?

The only difference that I can see is that I am using a different dialup number. My account login name is sofia.surname@eidosnet.co.uk in both attempts)




I have also tried to sign up to tesco.net but they ask for my CC ?!


Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by PhilUp on Nov 2nd, 2004 at 7:29pm
Hi

I have also had this problem with Eidos.  As far as I am concerned I just want any free pay as you go dial up (not broadband / ISDN) where I can sign up & use the landline.

Ideally I want to connect to the internet this way so I can prefix the number, allowing me free access to dial up also (As non Geo numbers are not inc in free calls).

Any suggestions?


Phil

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Nov 3rd, 2004 at 1:34am
I'm a support engineer and I charge £250 per day (or part of) plus travel costs, for Technical Support problems (which this falls under  ::))
I have an 09xx number that I commisioned especially for this purpose, which charges at a slightly lower rate (but not much) so if anyone's still interested, please send me a message and I will let you know it.   ;)

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by jrawle on Nov 5th, 2004 at 8:33pm

PhilUp wrote on Nov 2nd, 2004 at 7:29pm:
I have also had this problem with Eidos.  As far as I am concerned I just want any free pay as you go dial up (not broadband / ISDN) where I can sign up & use the landline.

Ideally I want to connect to the internet this way so I can prefix the number, allowing me free access to dial up also (As non Geo numbers are not inc in free calls).


As far as I'm concerned, dial-up internet is the one area where the use of 0845 is justified. The small amount of revenue that this generates for ISPs pays for the connection - and bandwidth has to be paid for somehow, after all. 0845 access is perfect for light internet users who go online in the evening or at weekends.

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by robinp on Nov 6th, 2004 at 9:07am
jrawie, How about people who use it mainly during the daytime. It's not reasonable, as far as I'm concerned, to pay 4ppm,
£2.40 per hr. for Pay as you Go. At 2hrs. per day for only 5 days translates into £24 a wk. that's £96 a month. I assume that's why users go on an unlimited monthly contract basis, even for light users.

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Nov 6th, 2004 at 3:04pm
Robin

As Jonathan points out, there ain't no such thing as a Free Lunch ! The cost of supplying the server connection, adequate bandwidth, Free webspace, Free email account(s) & Free Webmail, costs the ISP money to provide. Then people start moaning about having to pay for Tech Support on an 087x/090x line. ISP's ALWAYS show lists of FAQ's covering practically every problem you're likely to have, but people don't think to read them before calling the premium rate number. Emails cost practically nothing but there's still the Techies' time to analyse the problem & reply.

I've already stated my charges and you'd be surprised at the number of silly questions I STILL get asked, or how many people that still make basic mistakes, (like not backing up their data or their system) even though they've been warned.

Quote:
0845 access is perfect for light internet users who go online in the evening or at weekends.
If you use it a lot in the daytime, switch to one of the cheap daytime ISP packages e.g. Tesco Daytime £5.99
Any more time than that and there are plenty of ANYTIME packages to choose from at reasonable prices.
I hope that answers your last question adequately.    :)

I have some 10 ISP's, most of which I can access email, etc. from my ADSL account, but a couple still require logging on with a modem (& 0845 numbers) at regular intervals. Also it's always handy having other accounts, just for that one occasion your main server is down & you have an urgent email to send/receive or website to check.

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by robinp on Nov 7th, 2004 at 9:23am
   Hi DaveM, I have just been given a new Bush TV Internet STB with all the accessories. Bush only offers Pay As You Go via an 0845 no. Daniel must have had one at one time, because he put me onto the Bush User Group's website forum on which his name was mentioned on one of the posts. On one of the threads they explain how to reconfigure the box so as to connect with another ISP. But I first have to find one with an unlimited-type contract which is acceptable to this system, and is also available over my NTL phone line. After I find one I can register their details on the STB to reconfigure it. Then I can connect it to a printer which my NTL TV Internet cable STB wont allow for. Do you remember Dave that I told you about this problem that I have, because that's how I access the internet at the moment. I understand what you said in your previous posting, actually I wasn't so much referring to using 0845 to log on initially or at regular intervals, rather a continual PAYG usage, which would be too expensive for me using my previous hypothetical £96 per month. Tescos wont work on my present operating system, So I imagine it won't work on Bush's either. Thanks anyway Dave.

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by andy9 on Jan 29th, 2005 at 12:52am
The claranet numbers listed above are obsolete for several weeks, but it is possible to find plenty more on their website.

It's also possible to ring customer services on a London number instead of 0845

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by Wally on Apr 4th, 2005 at 10:24pm
I have tried most of the numbers marked with a # and they seem constantly engaged on my landline. If, however, I then dial up on my mobile the number rings and answers, whilst my landline is still giving me an engaged tone! Any ideas?

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Apr 5th, 2005 at 1:13am
Sorry but cannot explain that one. It must be your telephone provider that's blocking them though I can't think why they should.

I tested them all from my phone, even prefixing them with 141 to block my number, but they all worked fine. Never tried logging on as that may then have been a problem. Most of them require the 1470 prefix to verify your number/account if you normally have it blocked.

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by Wally on Apr 5th, 2005 at 5:25am
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I get this problem when I dial using the prefix 18866. I cannot understand it either. It was only when the line seemed constantly engaged that I got a bit suspicious and tried on my mobile whilst the landline was still engaged ???

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by andy9 on Apr 5th, 2005 at 1:44pm
I suspect 18866 have identified and blocked many of these. There was some discussion on MSE a while back; a popular idea, but people seem to have had the same results as you.

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by Wally on Apr 10th, 2005 at 11:35pm
The thing is, though, I have rang on the landline using 18866 and it has been fine, ie. I get the handshake tones, but not when the computer is connected ???

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by vafe on Apr 12th, 2005 at 5:55pm
Would someone explain how you get hooked up witha ISP and how you change the no. to a geog. one.

Thanks

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Apr 12th, 2005 at 10:09pm
I could tell you . . . but then I would have to kill you !!  ::)

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by Smasher on Jul 22nd, 2005 at 8:54am
I've heard that some tel. companies will just charge for the ISP geo number instead of allowing it on the free inclusive package... can anyone confirm this?    :-/  


Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by bigjohn on Jul 22nd, 2005 at 9:09am

Smasher wrote on Jul 22nd, 2005 at 8:54am:
I've heard that some tel. companies will just charge for the ISP geo number instead of allowing it on the free inclusive package... can anyone confirm this?    :-/  


Yes.See thread running in Geo Chat titled( Internet Dial Up). ;)

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by James_Middlesbroug on Nov 19th, 2005 at 5:00pm
I have just read the virgin.net number 01483 881766 and seen that this number recieves no answer. As this is in guilford it WONT. All virgin.net opperations are based in middlesbrough (01642) or Newport In Gwent (01633).

ALL Customer care and technical support are based at these areas

Sorry to be the barer of bad news

Title: Re: land lines for ISPs
Post by DaveM on Nov 19th, 2005 at 10:35pm
That's probably because they were SOLD. Before they decided to sell up, they stopped answering the old number given. Of course, after they were sold off, they changed the support and provider locations and numbers, hence we do not have the current details.

Now if you could be ever so helpful to provide the new Geo dial-up number and Tech support Geo number, I would be very pleased to kiss your feet - well at least buy you a pint !  ::)

Title: Geographic Internet Dial-Up Numbers
Post by dave_g on Jan 23rd, 2005 at 8:28pm
Is anyone aware of any internet service provider that uses geographic numbers, rather than 0800/0845 ?  The reason that I ask is that if there is such an ISP & number, then you can use a mobile/laptop to connect to the internet, using free minutes etc.

I seem to remember a while back that AOL had regional dial-up numbers which would have been suitable, but they you needed to have a £15 per month subscription which somewhat defeats the object.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks

Title: Re: Geographic Internet Dial-Up Numbers
Post by dave_g on Jan 23rd, 2005 at 10:04pm
I have successfully registered with BT Internet, pay as you go dial up. Costs 1p/5p off and peak time. Although it is slow, at 9.6k, it is much cheaper than using GPRS to connect to the internet, at £2.35 per Mb downloaded with Vodafone.

Title: Re: Geographic Internet Dial-Up Numbers
Post by andy9 on Jan 29th, 2005 at 1:16am
You mean BT Internet charges 1p/5p on top of what the mobile net charges, or did I misunderstand?

I don't know if you've heard of Onspeed which is a compression/accelerator proxy; it speeds up emails (mainly text) by a factor of ~10 and graphics roughly 3 times.

If you install it on your laptop, it should help shorten the call length

Title: Re: Geographic Internet Dial-Up Numbers
Post by dave_g on Jan 29th, 2005 at 9:21am
To be quite honest, I am not sure that BT are billing me at all. I can use my mobile to ring BT's geographic number (free or inclusive minutes) for dial-up internet access.
I have checked my vodafone bill and nothing is being added to any calls that I have made. Even though I gave BT my home phone number, I fail to see how they can bill me for a call made on Vodafone. I will await my next BT bill.

Title: Re: Dial-up ISPs with geographical numbers
Post by Heinz on Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:03pm
Seeing a new member post seeking a geographical number for Virgin's dial up being directed to this rather ancient thread prompts me to suggest a possible, cheaper, alternative might be:

http://www.geoisp.co.uk/

Title: Re: British Telecon does it again
Post by Dave on Apr 9th, 2007 at 11:27pm

Dave wrote on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 12:16am:
I've just found this page on BT's site which confirms that these numbers are excluded from the so called "discount" packages.  :-X

Where has BT's exclusion page gone?  :-/

Just found this. I can see why it's not a list, but where is it now? The above link just forwards to a page pushing BT's tariffs.

Title: Re: Dial-up ISPs with geographical numbers
Post by DaveM on Apr 10th, 2007 at 4:15pm

Heinz wrote on Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:03pm:
. . . a possible, cheaper, alternative might be:

http://www.geoisp.co.uk/

Thanks Heinz

Had a look at that & will follow it up & leave details here of success (or not).

Title: Re: Dial-up ISPs with geographical numbers
Post by Heinz on Dec 10th, 2007 at 8:31pm

Heinz wrote on Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:03pm:
Seeing a new member post seeking a geographical number for Virgin's dial up being directed to this rather ancient thread prompts me to suggest a possible, cheaper, alternative might be:

http://www.geoisp.co.uk/

Good while it lasted - but long gone now it seems.

Title: Re: Dial-up ISPs with geographical numbers
Post by irrelevant on Dec 12th, 2007 at 11:53am
Thanks to archive.org:

Quote:
GeoISP
Internet access via dial-up on a geographic number: 020 8114 9845
Use any username and password to log in
Calls billed at 0p/min by 18185, 1899
Calls usually included in bundles offering free nationwide calls
Calls usually part of inclusive minutes for mobile users - cheaper than GPRS!
No catch, no subscription, no need even to register


Checked just now, the phone number still answers with modem tones - not got a modem hooked up to check it at the moment though, but it looks like it's just the website that is down.

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