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Message started by stuartr on Nov 25th, 2004 at 12:06pm

Title: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by stuartr on Nov 25th, 2004 at 12:06pm
Does anyone know the geographic numbers for student accommodation at Murano Street (numbers start 0870 142xxxx)?

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by jrawle on Nov 25th, 2004 at 2:18pm
It might help if you could tell us who provides the phone service.

Apparently, 0870 142 belongs to Energis, and they only have two ranges of geographical numbers in Glasgow:

0141 626
0141 627

Try these, and if they work please let us know and also add them to the database!

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by stuartr on Nov 29th, 2004 at 9:44am
Thanks for the tip. I tried both suggestions without success. (I have also tried 0141 945 and 0141 946 as they are the landline numbers for the payphones in the buildings.)

The company which apparently runs the telephone service is Masterpoint.

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by jrawle on Nov 29th, 2004 at 5:16pm
There isn't much about Masterpoint on the web, only this:

http://www.interquartz.co.uk/case_study_3.html
http://www.masterpoint.co.uk/partners.php

They do say:


Quote:
we also have direct relationships with selected providers of Network Services BT, RELY and C&W.


Cable & Wireless have 13 numbers in Glasgow:

0141 160 *
0141 232
0141 246 *
0141 300
0141 302-309 inclusive
0141 314
0141 446 *

* these codes were only allocated in September 2004. I think it's a brand new system, but even so this seems too recent.

BT have very many more, but if you're desperate you can find them here:

http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/search/Phones/oftel_cl_sab_141.html

Of course, it could use voice over IP, but they do seem to specialise in old-style exchanges.

Also, what number does the caller-ID give (or 1471) when you call someone? Is it a 0141 code or something else? In Southampton, it was found to give a Winchester code, and this lead straight to the numbers!

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by stuartr on Apr 15th, 2005 at 2:06pm
Just for the record I tried all the non-BT allocations, and a number of BT's too. I then made a request under the Freedom of Information Act and was told that the underlying numbers cannot be dialled from outside the University.

Apparently Masterpoint are going to introduce a geographic number alternative - but at a cost.

This information might assist those who are obviously having similar problems with other University accommodation. >:(

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by Tanllan on Apr 15th, 2005 at 2:26pm

wrote on Apr 15th, 2005 at 2:06pm:
...and was told that the underlying numbers cannot be dialled from outside the University. >:(

And why not? Closed User Group? Or do they think that one can not dial them? Sorry, think may be too strong and positive a word.
If the former possibly anti-competitive to callers etc, if the second then we are faced with the usual convenient ignorance  >:(

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by Smasher on Apr 15th, 2005 at 2:44pm
I think this is the same situation as with Swansea University.  After long and tireless research (and dialling), I can only conclude that it is the 01792 62 code that is registered to "Torch Communications" but can't be dialled from outside.  

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by jrawle on Apr 21st, 2005 at 2:19pm
Don't BT and Kingston have an obligation to allow all numbers in the UK to be dialled from their lines?

I often think about this when considering the Leicester Uni halls numbers (which is 0116 005 - a "national dialling only" number).

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by rossonthenet on May 30th, 2005 at 1:22pm
For Murano Street, your number SHOULD be:

0141-582-EXTENSION

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by Smasher on May 30th, 2005 at 2:06pm
How did you work that out? ???

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by rossonthenet on May 30th, 2005 at 2:17pm

wrote on May 30th, 2005 at 2:06pm:
How did you work that out? ???


Well, i'll keep that to myself  :-X

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by Smasher on May 30th, 2005 at 4:18pm

wrote on May 30th, 2005 at 2:17pm:
Well, i'll keep that to myself  :-X


OK but in that case do you know the Swansea number prefix as well?

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by rossonthenet on May 31st, 2005 at 9:12am
Sorry, i don't, I only know the Glasgow one.

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by Smasher on May 31st, 2005 at 12:06pm

wrote on May 30th, 2005 at 2:17pm:
Well, i'll keep that to myself  :-X


The whole point of this site is that we pool resources, information and tactics in helping to sidestep this 0870 scam.  Not hiding any tactics or information.  That is not how progress is made.

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by stuartr on May 31st, 2005 at 2:51pm

wrote on May 30th, 2005 at 1:22pm:
For Murano Street, your number SHOULD be:

0141-582-EXTENSION


Just tried the suggestion - unfortunately it is "unobtainable".  Therefore if it is the right number, it is one which cannot be dialled from the BT network >:(

Title: Re: Glasgow University Student Accommodation
Post by rossonthenet on May 31st, 2005 at 11:52pm

wrote on May 31st, 2005 at 2:51pm:
Just tried the suggestion - unfortunately it is "unobtainable".  Therefore if it is the right number, it is one which cannot be dialled from the BT network >:(


Well, i'm in Cheviot and it works fine on my extension, and all others I have tried (Moorfoot and Sidlaw included).

Calls have been tried from an Orange mobile.

In reference to Smasher I cannot divulge my sources as to how I managed to find out the number pool. I am protecting the privacy of a friend.

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