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Main Forum >> Geographical Numbers Chat >> Use of the word free in Ads. https://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1114617897 Message started by bigjohn on Apr 27th, 2005 at 5:04pm |
Title: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by bigjohn on Apr 27th, 2005 at 5:04pm
The ASA have recently ruled that advertisers must not describe an offer as free if there are costs to consumers,other then non premium rate phone calls,postage,carriage or reasonable travel to collect the item.It goes on to say ( The Advertiser must make it clear the extent of the consumers liability for any costs).
So therefore if it is accepted that calls to 0844,0845,and 0870 are premium rate and the advertiser does does make it clear in the ad the true cost of the calls.There would appear to be grounds for complaint to the ASA. I suppose it all hinges on whether or not the ASA consider 0844,0845,0870 calls to be premium rate. |
Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by dorf on Apr 27th, 2005 at 8:58pm
BT now admit them to be Premium in their price lists. Ofcom have stated publicly that they are in effect Premium.
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Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by bigjohn on Apr 28th, 2005 at 5:06pm
I have emailed the ASA to clarify this point.I will post the outcome.
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Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by bigjohn on May 3rd, 2005 at 12:33pm
The ASA have advised me that they do not consider 0844/0845/and 0870 numbers to be a premium service.
However they are recommending that advertisers adopt the OFCOM guidelines(see Telephone Helplines Posting for exact details.) |
Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by juby on May 4th, 2005 at 12:06pm
I suggest you ask the ASA what is the difference between 0871 and 0901, both cost exactly the same.
One is a premium number, the other one is not! (According to them.) juby |
Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by bigjohn on May 4th, 2005 at 12:15pm
Clearly they dont know there posterior from there elbow.
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Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by bill on May 4th, 2005 at 12:21pm wrote on May 4th, 2005 at 12:06pm:
From a BT residential landline, calls to 0871 numbers cost 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10p per minute depending upon subsequent digits. Similarly, calls to 0901 numbers cost up to £1.01 per minute depending upon subsequent digits. The second I don't object to because users are required to publish the call cost. The first is the problem because there is no requirement to publish the call cost, there are six different possibilities (which most people don't know anyway) and, being so similar to 0870, the 'charged at national call rate' ambiguity (lie) is again present. |
Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by juby on May 4th, 2005 at 11:26pm wrote on May 4th, 2005 at 12:21pm:
OK I'll rephrase the question, I suggest you ask the ASA what is the difference between an 0871 call (costing 10 pence per minute) and a 0901 call (costing 10 pence per minute) both cost exactly the same. One is a premium number, the other one is not! (According to them.) The fact that I agree that the latter is fair because it states the cost is not the point, the fact that it is legally required in one case but not in the other is. Whos side are you on? I am sure that most people got the point, and whoever heard of an advertiser using a 0871 number that cost less than 10 pence per minute? juby |
Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by bill on May 8th, 2005 at 8:05pm wrote on May 4th, 2005 at 11:26pm:
Hence, the figures I quoted are truthful and are not selective to suit my argument. |
Title: Re: Use of the word free in Ads. Post by Dave on May 8th, 2005 at 8:34pm
ICSTIS don't require the cost to be displayed for 09 numbers which cost less than 50p.
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IMHO most 0871s are 10p/min. Why? The answer is simple, because no requirement for pricing information means that there is no incentive for lower charged numbers. Which is why Ofcom's idea of price competition between service providers is a complete load of rubbish. Lower priced 0844/0871 numbers are often used for PAYG internet services and call carriers (for example, for overseas) where pricing information is given. |
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