Having just read this thread by pricefighter on the MSE forum, you can now dial mobiles for only 4ppm via DialWise.co.uk's mobile access number 0844 428 46 46.

Just tried this but I'm not too impressed by the call quality :-/  

Anyone else tried this? ???

I can beat that!!!  Now for the lowest ever mobile price, and that is 1p per minute!!

And as for 0870, 0871, and 0845, also 1p per minute!!

How??  Well, as discussed on this board about 3U, someone suggested that you can call 0844 721 0001 for 1p per minute, and call UK landlines, but there is a slight glitch in the system, and you can call non geographic numbers as well.

Therefore, once you call their 0844 number, you can then dial a more expensive indirect dial service up to 10p minute, and still only pay for the original 1p minute call!!

Therefore, you can use their own 5p minute number for mobiles, as the destination number for 1p minute, then call the mobile number as your destination number once connected to the 5p minute line.

I'm pretty sure they will realise what is going on, and close this loophole pretty soon.

wrote on Jun 27^th, 2005 at 3:32pm:

Therefore, you can use their own 5p minute number for mobiles, as the destination number for 1p minute, then call the mobile number as your destination number once connected to the 5p minute line.

Have you tried it did it work. I was messing around with various combinations of these numbers earlier and when i called  either of the two new cheap mobile rate numbers via 0844 721 0001 it said they were busy and wouldnt connect me.

(ADD) I have just tried to ring the Cheapest Calls  0871 999 17 17 mobile access no through 0844 721 001.It worked. I then rung a mobile all for 1p a minute.I cant see this loophole lasting long.

Beware AbroadTel - I'm pretty sure it's a scam company.

Every so often it doesn't connect or keeps you holding.  I've actually spent more trying to connect than I did when I simply used 18866! >:(  

wrote on Jun 27^th, 2005 at 5:49pm:

Beware AbroadTel - I'm pretty sure it's a scam company

I dont think so Smasher its part of the well established European TelecomsGroup.   www.callax.de  

                   

[glb]Beware AbroadTel - I'm pretty sure it's a scam company.

Every so often it doesn't connect or keeps you holding.  I've actually spent more trying to connect than I did when I simply used 18866[/glb]

Well, I have used their 1p minute number to call higher rate numbers, or mobiles, and yes there are problems connecting sometimes.  Just remember to dial any additional numbers in international format, ie 00 44 870...... or 00 44 (77, 78, 79) for mobile.

As for the cost, I have checked their prices, and it is indeed charged at 1p minute from landlines.

I used the service to call just dial, and it even said they were engaged!!  However they don't hang up, instead they allow you to press 1, to try the same number again, or an alternative number, which means you don't pay a minimum charge or connection charge for this, and I got through on the 2nd time!!

I can't see any scam here.  They correctly price the calls.  The failed calls, are probably a technology issue, and they do allow you to keep trying again, if they don't connect you, and of course their loophole has allowed people to call more expensive 0871 numbers for 1p minute. instead of 10p!!

Have you looked at the FAQ ?

You get charged as soon as you are connected to the DialWise number....    Even if the mobile don't answer..

http://www.dialwise.co.uk/customerservice/customerservice_answer.php?id=12&faqcs=true


Stuff that....

wrote on Jul 1^st, 2005 at 5:18pm:

Have you looked at the FAQ ? You get charged as soon as you are connected to the DialWise number....    Even if the mobile don't answer..

Ah, just like calling a mobile that does not answer, or with very slow voicemail. But at 4p per minute still worth a try?

I didn't get an option to redial the number - just bleeps and silence which was probably the original attempt to connect.

May give this 1 per  minute mobile thing a go...

wrote on Jul 1^st, 2005 at 5:35pm:

Ah, just like calling a mobile that does not answer, or with very slow voicemail. But at 4p per minute still worth a try?

I understand the slow voicemail comment, but not the does not answer comment.

When you call a mobile using a standard service or indirect access provider you are not charged to be told the phone is unavailable, switched off or busy, however with call-through providers you will be as you are charged as soon as you connect to their system.

I believe that you will be charged to listen to mobile ringtone with at least two of the providers.

wrote on Jul 1^st, 2005 at 10:35pm:

I believe that you will be charged to listen to mobile ringtone with at least two of the providers.

Which two are these, certainly not T-Mobile, Orange, O2, Vodafone, Virgin, easyMobile and Fresh (the only ones I can remember at the moment).

Right, well that's my age showing, because I remember that we found that O2 (Cellnet as was) and Vodafone both charged upon connection to ringing; only discovered when Mercury offered charge tone on their network. Orange and Mercury One-2-One were revolutionary in that they did not so charge.
Thank you for correcting me politely - must check more thoroughly before posting  :-[

[quote author=Tanllan link=1119823777/0#13 date=1120258429]Right, well that's my age showing, because I remember that we found that O2 (Cellnet as was) and Vodafone both charged upon connection to ringing; only discovered when Mercury offered charge tone on their network. Orange and Mercury One-2-One were revolutionary in that they did not so charge.
Thank you for correcting me politely - must check more thoroughly before posting  :-[/quote]


No worries, I had a feeling you meant O2 and Vodafone, as you are correct at one time they did charge, they were however forced to stop this a few years after One2One and Orange launched.

Hi all -- Anyone know of the cheapest way to call the total ripoff hospital numbers -- like 07046 etc??  My brother is in hospital, and you can only call him on a unique 07046 number which costs 46p/min fullrate, 37.5p/min offpeak.  Incredible..

However I was disappointed to find that 1899 won't connect to these numbers -- juist a recorded announcement saying "sorry, 1899 does not offer calls to this destination".

All advice gratefully received (not least my bro!)... >:(

1899 were quoting 15p a min to 070 personal numbers,and 18866 20p a min.

www.dialwise.co.uk   part of the same group as 1899/18866 offer calls to them at 15p a min on the
dial through no 0911 501 46 46

Thanks -- but as I say, I get a "not available" message fropm 1899 for 07046- numbers;  and also from DialWise..

So It looks as if the overpriced hospital numbers are being protected somehow...

Perhaps you can try the abroadtel service.

As the previous thread suggests, you can use the 1p minute access number to call more expenseive access numbers in the 0871, 0870, 0844, and 0845 range.

This would include their 0844 number allowing you to call mobiles for 5p minute.

Worth a try to see, if their system can distinguish between the more expensive 070 numbers, and the mobile numbers of 077, 078, and 079.  If they allow anything after 07, then bingo, you get to call at 1p minute.

Please let us all know how you get on, and also hope your brother gets well soon.

wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2005 at 10:16pm:

Thanks -- but as I say, I get a "not available" message fropm 1899 for 07046- numbers;  and also from DialWise.. So It looks as if the overpriced hospital numbers are being protected somehow...

There is a posting on Money Saving Expert site re the 1899 access not working.But it says if you use 0808 cable access no it works from your landline 15p a min.

wrote on Jun 27^th, 2005 at 3:32pm:

I'm pretty sure they will realise what is going on, and close this loophole pretty soon

Especially now that you have published this method of abusing their system on here.

If you are going to exploit a technical mistake by a company in a way that they would probably be able to take you to court for if you did it in large amounts and they managed to identify who you were then its best not to tell the world about it on the web!

If it had been a legitimate new bargain rate then please do of course tell everyone out there.

wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2005 at 10:35am:

Especially now that you have published this method of abusing their system on here. If you are going to exploit a technical mistake by a company in a way that they would probably be able to take you to court for if you did it in large amounts and they managed to identify who you were then its best not to tell the world about it on the web! If it had been a legitimate new bargain rate then please do of course tell everyone out there.

Loophole has now been closed :'(

At least I think so - I tried to dial their 0844 access number for a different international destination and it showed up as busy.  Then I tried the 0871 for mobile and that just cut me off :(

Ah well, another 5p down the drain. ::)

#19 -- sorry can't find this post, & don't understand yr reference to 0808 cable etc.

Could you clarify please!?  Thanks!

What they said if you use the 1899 access no
0808 1 708 708 which is normally used for access by cable customers,you will get through at 15p a min.Good luck.

wrote on Jul 5^th, 2005 at 4:12pm:

What they said if you use the 1899 access no 0808 1 708 708 which is normally used for access by cable customers,you will get through at 15p a min.Good luck.

And that's exactly how/why, from my BT line, I still use them for my calls to Spain at 1p/minute (bizarrely, using their 1899 prefix costs 2p/minute).

#23 -- Thanks a million BigJohn!  Works a treat!  (Wonder how long for, though...)

Anyway my bro sends his thanx as well. 15p/min is a big improvement, & means we can all talk to him nearly 4x longer for the same money.  Brilliant.

Dialwise have now put up their charge for calls to Mobiles from 4p to 10p on a different access number 0871 999 48 48

If you call the old number you get a recorded message giving the new number, and of course you get charged for the call!

The links to Dialwise on the cheapest calls page need to be updated/changed asap to stop everyone else calling the old number.

Yes.

The cheapest supplier of calls from a landline to a uk mobile at peak or evening times is now
abroadtel. 0844 452 0005 (5p).
www.abroadtel.co.uk

If using Abroadtel dont forget to put the mobile no in intl format.

Yes, but my last two attempts to call my own mobile, as a trial, returned the message that my mobile was engaged.
Surely not a scam?

wrote on Jul 21^st, 2005 at 12:00pm:

Yes, but my last two attempts to call my own mobile, as a trial, returned the message that my mobile was engaged

I had this problem as well a few times.  I'm guessing they don't have as many lines available and can't handle as many calls as Dialwise could.

I think (as mentioned little earlier) that Daniel needs to be informed so I'm gonna post this in an existing topic in 'Site Related'.

wrote on Jul 21^st, 2005 at 12:00pm:

Yes, but my last two attempts to call my own mobile, as a trial, returned the message that my mobile was engaged. Surely not a scam?

Yes i tried this today ,and  once i got through and the other time the call failed.They appear to route these calls out of the uk and back,and probaly dont have enough lines to carry traffic.

Yes, but there is a difference between "Network Busy" and "Called Subscriber Busy"...
Scam or sloppy?

AbroadTel's 1p minute number can no longer route calls to 0870, and 0871 numbers!!

Oh well, it was good whilst it lasted.

Back to the original topic of this thread, Dialwise have now withdrawn their 4p a minute UK mobile access number and now show a new number costing 10p a minute.

That's a price rise of 150%!

I suspect it was a loss leader to combat abroadtel,and when they found abroadtel only worked sporadically they pulled it.

I have been using Telesavers today to phone my son in Singapore for 2p a min. Seemed to work well . http://www.telesavers.co.uk/

Am always looking for a cheaper way of phoning mobiles from a land line. There was one I used last week but it's not working anymore!!

wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2005 at 10:35am:

Especially now that you have published this method of abusing their system on here. If you are going to exploit a technical mistake by a company in a way that they would probably be able to take you to court for if you did it in large amounts and they managed to identify who you were then its best not to tell the world about it on the web! If it had been a legitimate new bargain rate then please do of course tell everyone out there.

Sorry for replying to this so late, and also after the event - I was abroad for over 3 weeks.

I made the same discovery as Shiggaddi about this, and put rather cryptic clues to it on MSE in June before I left.

Was it a technical mistake, was it unfair to exploit it?

They gave automatic instructions to do this, so could hardly claim that the use was fraudulent or abusive - if you called their 0845 number then attempted 0044871--- the message told you to redial using the 0844721 access number.

wrote on Jul 25^th, 2005 at 3:08pm:

Back to the original topic of this thread, Dialwise have now withdrawn their 4p a minute UK mobile access number and now show a new number costing 10p a minute. That's a price rise of 150%!

So what's the latest news?  Is Dialwise's 10p/min currently the best price for dialling mobiles from landline?

wrote on Aug 8^th, 2005 at 7:26am:

So what's the latest news?  Is Dialwise's 10p/min currently the best price for dialling mobiles from landline?

Abroadtel,s 9p a min no 0871 342 00 09 is currently the cheapest!!!
But for reliability i suggest you use 1899. 10p a min weekdays,3p at weekends.plus 3p connection charge.