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Main Forum >> Geographical Numbers Chat >> 0870 Geographic Link repair https://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1158765540 Message started by Number6 on Sep 20th, 2006 at 3:19pm |
Title: 0870 Geographic Link repair Post by Number6 on Sep 20th, 2006 at 3:19pm
Is the war on 0870 over? As of January 2008 OFCOM say that landline and mobile operators have to repair the national geographic link. Therefore calls to 0870 will be the same price as calls to standard national numbers. :)
OFCOM also say that they will tackle the 0845 NTS in the next two years. Or have I misinterpreted all this :o http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/nts_forward/statement/statement.pdf Does anyone know about the new 03 number range? I believe thery are available this October. |
Title: Re: 0870 Geographic Link repair Post by bbb_uk on Sep 20th, 2006 at 3:26pm
Hi Number6,
You have interepreted it correct. There is no gurantee that telecom providers will charge normal rates for 0870 numbers though but if they choose not to charge normal rates then a free pre-announcement has to made. This was discussed here. |
Title: Re: 0870 Geographic Link repair Post by bbb_uk on Sep 20th, 2006 at 5:25pm Number6 wrote on Sep 20th, 2006 at 3:19pm:
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Title: Re: 0870 Geographic Link repair Post by pauld on Sep 20th, 2006 at 9:06pm
OFCOM Website says:
1.52 These consultation measures are covered in Annexes 2 to 8 of this document. We will aim to conclude those consultation processes rapidly, if possible by the start of October 2006, at which point the new framework for conservation of geographic numbers should be in place, and communications providers will be able to apply for 03 numbers. We expect that 03 numbers might be available to be dialled in early 2007. This can be found at the OFCOM site |
Title: Re: 0870 Geographic Link repair Post by mikeinnc on Sep 21st, 2006 at 2:47am
Quote from Number6 20 SEP 2006
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Don't be deluded, Number6! The revenue from NTS calls - which currently includes 0870 and 0845 - is pure heroin flowing in the veins of the telcos, especially BT. What an absolute master stroke this was - offering a pittance back to its customers in return for maintaining revenue from voice calls, in the face of competition. And since there is a small fee paid back to the call receiver, other companies cannot undercut BT's monopoly. Add to this the sheer genius of making the numbers appear to be "similar" to the well known Freecall number, and a weak, ineffectual and totally compromised regulator - and the coup is complete! Do you REALLY think they are going to give this up? Just like that junkie, they are totally, absolutely hooked! Just look at the efforts they will make to hide the underlying geographic number. Why? It's not the company who has the 0870 number that is generally doing this - you will probably find that the Telco has threatened them with all sorts of dire and legal consequences if that number is exposed. They'd lose their revenue! That's what is key. Junkies really need that fix! See, even that great white charger, voice over the Internet (VoIP) is set up to be a failure in Rip-Off UK because so many calls use the NTS numbers. Result? They can never be "free" - it's that charge again, and BT keep laughing all the way to the bank. Keep that drug flowing, guys...... No, they will make a big issue of how benevolent they are; how wonderful and customer focused their call plans are.....and all the time, they will be frantically selling their NTS customers on the "new, increased benefits" of 0871 or 0844 numbers. Why, we can even afford to give you a little more revenue per call. (thinks) After all, we are going to make a heap more!" Can't lose that fix!! War over? 'Fraid not Just a minor tactical withdrawal whilst regrouping and mounting a new offensive at the weakest point - the couldn't care, doesn't understand mug UK-telephone-user punter! ("What do you mean, 0871 is a premium number. It's free, ain't it?") The battle cry is 'Onward with 0871'. They REALLY need that fix!! >:( |
Title: Re: 0870 Geographic Link repair Post by Dave on Sep 21st, 2006 at 6:48am pauld wrote on Sep 20th, 2006 at 9:06pm:
A new framework for these numbers was going to be put into place by "early" 2005 according to what Matt Peacock, Ofcom's Communication Director said in an interview in November 2004. He even agreed with the interviewee that the were "premium rate numbers, but by another name." So I don't believe a word they say and I think that the best thing we can do is lobby our MEPs and more information on this can be found on this thread. |
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