I have had problems adding a number to the database here http://www.saynoto0870.com/add.php, getting a message: Disallowed HTTP Referer! ("") Does anyone know what this means?

I don't think I've downloaded anything new on my computer recently, and have tried to access that page on both mozilla (my standard browser) and IE and both have same message.

Any ideas?

Go to the home page and then click the 'add' link. It works that way.  ;)

When you visit a webpage under certain circumstances your browser will pass on the website address of the site you were just visiting - known as referral information.

The database has been suffering from a lot of automated spam recently and as such Daniel, site admin, has recently introduced new things to try and stop this.  The most noticable one was the introduction of a verification code which is commonly found on a lot of things these days along with only allowing entries to be added providing users only accessed it via normal methods (ie clicking on it from the main page).

Thank you Dave and bbb_uk   :)

I have tried to access it from the www.saynoto0870.com homepage a few times instead, but still getting same message.

I have tried deleting my browsing info before visiting the homepage (history, cookies, 'authenticated sessions', and cache) however still giving identical message, both in IE and mozilla.  :-/

I've also tried this on same computer different network, same message.

@bbb_uk I first accessed it from a blank google page, www.google.co.uk is my homepage.  

Is anyone else having similar problems?  

wacs wrote on Feb 21^st, 2007 at 9:12pm:

I have tried to access it from the www.saynoto0870.com homepage a few times instead, but still getting same message.

Do you have any security software installed that is purposely removing the http referral field everytime you visit a website?  Some security/privacy software does this although in my opinion it's harmless to allow http referral field to be sent as some website links may not work.

The message will be gobbledygook to most, so they will not know what to do to correct it. Can we have either a more explanatory message, or preferably, in place of the current message, a link that goes takes you to the add form?

I agree my message probably wouldn't make much sense so try this:-

Click here ignoring any pop-up or prompt about installing an add-on from adobe as it's not needed.

You should then be taken to a webpage that will display a lot of things like screen resolution size but what is important is if there is any referral information.  To check this look down for the heading:

You linked from here:

You should then hopefully see something like:


http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1172072151/0




If you don't see the above website link then it is likely that you have security/privacy software running that is removing this.

Please let us know how you get on.

This has now been improved. If you visit the 'add a number' page from another site, it gives a link to the add form which you can click.

Try clicking the link on these Google results and you will see what I mean.  ;)

I'm getting the same thing. I use Firefox 1.5 or IE7. When I used the browser test link in IE it does show the referrer, in firefox it doesn't. I get the disallowed referrer error in both browsers. I dont't have anything else installed that will be removing the referrer.
I really like the site and want to add numbers - but I'm not going to uninstall privacy/anti-virus software/change browser settings to do so ... !

BTW have you seen skype's firefox extension? It highlights phone numbers on webpages and allows you to make calls direct from the page - I guess you could do a similar thing, scan the page for NGNs and then provide a link to look it up for a GN? just a thought for your wishlist...

Welcome wallaby,


wallaby wrote on Mar 4^th, 2007 at 10:27am:

I'm getting the same thing. I use Firefox 1.5 or IE7. When I used the browser test link in IE it does show the referrer, in firefox it doesn't. I get the disallowed referrer error in both browsers. I dont't have anything else installed that will be removing the referrer.

I'm at a loss then.  If clicking on this page gives you the referral information which should begin with 'http://www.saynoto0870.com......' then you should be able to add numbers.

I've just tried with FF v2 (normally I use IE7 like you) and the referral field was shown as it should and I could add numbers to the database.

Do you mind listing your security/spyware, etc software so that it can be determined if these are blocking it?  It could be a setting in one of them.

However, if you can see the referral field information by clicking on the link you should be able to add numbers to the database.


Quote:

I really like the site and want to add numbers - but I'm not going to uninstall privacy/anti-virus software/change browser settings to do so ... !

Wouldn't expect you to and I don't recommend it.


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BTW have you seen skype's firefox extension? It highlights phone numbers on webpages and allows you to make calls direct from the page - I guess you could do a similar thing, scan the page for NGNs and then provide a link to look it up for a GN? just a thought for your wishlist...

There is already a FireFox extension that does something similar - see here.

Your help on this would be appreciated as the last thing we want to do is stop people adding numbers via legitimate methods (ie not spam).

Previously selecting SN2 from [Favourites] has caused no problems, but now I'm getting the disallowed thing.  A thing that gets me is that hitting [contact] gets the same message, dissallowing contact to report the problem, thus I'm on this thread to see what's what.  I haven't yet checked out solutions offered, but wht doesn't SN2 at the least say something on the main pages about this problem - I wondered if I have been blacklisted, and it could put quite a few off trying to input new numbers.

Hello!   :)

Have been busy and waylaid...  (v sorry)

Still having the same problem.

I have tried the suggestions;


bbb_uk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2007 at 10:05pm:

I agree my message probably wouldn't make much sense so try this:- Click here.

For me, it didn't have a link giving any referrer information or "You linked from here: further down the page", but it did give other technical info.  


bbb_uk wrote on Mar 4^th, 2007 at 11:29am:

wallaby wrote on Mar 4th, 2007 at 10:27am: I really like the site and want to add numbers - but I'm not going to uninstall privacy/anti-virus software/change browser settings to do so ... ! Wouldn't expect you to and I don't recommend it.

I was thinking this, too

It seems to me that you have security software/anti-spyware/privacy software installed and one of its features maybe to hide the http referral information.

If I had a list of any related security/anti-spyware/privacy software installed I could check to see if any do have this option.

The http referral information is sent normally by all browsers and can't be turned off in IE (as far as I'm aware) but I don't use FireFox that much so can't be certain if it can or not in FireFox.

I'd really like to add numbers, but like vinyamar, not sure I want to take off the http referrer thing in order to do so.  

I would imagine people who are not part of the site and just adding a number may not be as persistent in this case, so the site may be missing out on numbers being added as a result.  This may be offset by the reduction of whatever problem it was brought to address, so that may not be a bad thing.

In the meantime, could we have a thread dedicated for adding numbers, so those of us that can't can post them there? The majority who don't have the http referrer problem can add them to the database as and when they can?    ;)

hmm - mixed results!
I looked at my firefox config and it turns out it *was* blocking the referrer field - no idea how that got set.
However that doesn't seem to be the end of it ... (FYI to check this put 'about:config' in as the url and then scroll down to network.http.sendRefererHeader. If it is bold, the value has been changed - should be 2)

So anyway, set that back and then restarted the browser. I used the privacy.net analyser and now the referrer shows up - hurrah!

However when I then go to http://www.saynoto0870.com/add.php I still get 'bad referrer' - aaargh! So now the same thing is happening with Firefox as IE7

I am behind an ISP-supplied firewall but I don't think it is clever enough to selectively remove the referrer header...

For the record -
Windows XP Home (SP2, latest patches)
Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.10 (latest patch for 1.5)
IE 7 (latest patch)
AVG anti-virus
ewido anti-spyware (installed but not running)

other running processes (getting really desperate now ;-)
skype
MSN messenger
nokia PC suite

wallaby wrote on Mar 12^th, 2007 at 9:30am:

However when I then go to http://www.saynoto0870.com/add.php I still get 'bad referrer' - aaargh! So now the same thing is happening with Firefox as IE7

Wallaby

I think we're still running round in circles here.
How exactly are you gettng to the ADD A NEW TELEPHONE NUMBER page ??

Just to reinforce the points given above though:-

• You can ONLY go to that page from a link contained on THIS website !!
  
• You cannot get to it indirectly from a favourite or bookmark, another website or even by directly addressing it.
  

However, the error message that now comes up from this site has a link which will take you to the correct page.

Does this come up & work OK ??  :-/

I have just tried, in vain, to enter a new number - I got at the site from  your main page and immediately received HTTP Referer!("").  The same thing happened when I tried your Contact Us button!  Any help thankfully received

Fotinibell

See the post spliced below.

Are you visiting the site and specifically the add page by the saynoto0870.co.uk domain rather than the saynoto0870.com ?

I've got a few new numbers to add, but the section for adding a new number seems to have been down for some time

Just as I said it, it appeared LOL

Can you confirm you added the numbers?

Hey i have had the same problem just tried it again and it still keeps saying Disallowed HTTP Referer! ("http://www.saynoto0870.co.uk/search.php")

I notice that you are going to the search page using the .co.uk address and not .com. I have just clicked your link to the search page via the .co.uk address and then clicked the 'add a new alternative number' link and I get the same message.

I will inform Daniel, the site administrator of this and hopefully he can fix this. In the mean time, you can add numbers by going to http://www.saynoto0870.com/add.php

JohnD are you accessing the site/page using the .co.uk address instead of .com ? If so, then this will explain it.

Yep that works fine thanks for the info and help B :D

Thanks for the feedback. I've just informed Daniel about this.

Hopefully he can sort this and it will do the trick for everyone else who gets this message over and over again, even when they click the 'add' link.

I noticed that oddity as well. For some reason, you only get the ERROR if you use the link from any other than the www.saynoto0870.com pages.
Daniel needs to set the www.saynoto0870.co.uk to redirect to the .com website.

I notice that if you visit the site from www.saynoto0870.co.uk all the links on the green navigation bar at the top takes you to .co.uk including 'Discussion Forum'.

Click this:

http://www.saynoto0870.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi

Notice how you aren't logged in until you click on one of the section names or 'Last Post's as they are on the .com only.

OOOOOOH !!

Most peculiar. No wonder we're getting weird problems. Obviously Daniel must have it set up as a mirror site to even the access load. He should be able to clear that problem up quite quickly when he gets back.

I notice that even if you click on the link given on the .co.uk ERROR page, it just gives you the same error again.

I have the same problem when trying to use the "Contact Us" link to notify a discontinued number.....

hi again

Sorry for the delay in replying - have been on holiday for a month. Ah, the student life...

I am now able to click on the add link from the home page and I get a lovely form to fill in. I have no idea if I was using .co.uk before or .com - oh well it works now. Hurrah!
Thanks to whoever got it sorted.

Now I just have to remember what those numbers were I never got to add... :-)

Timcat wrote on Apr 20^th, 2007 at 4:59pm:

I have the same problem when trying to use the "Contact Us" link to notify a discontinued number.....

Are you using the saynoto0870.co.uk address? What does it say in your address bar?

I get the same result from both .com and .co.uk  :)

Using XP SP2, IE7 and ZoneAlarm Security Suite.

Cannot see a referral field in privacy.net response.

Will check back again tomorrow.....

ZA has an option to remove the referral field.  See this site for info on removing it.

Right first time! Brilliant service on an excellent website - many thanks. [smiley=beer.gif]

According to a couple of recent entries made to the database this is still a problem. I have noticed that when the address is entered as http://saynoto0870.com/ (i.e. without the www bit) it comes back with that "dissallowed http referer" error. Temporary solution is to insert www. into the URL.

Apologies for the delay in getting this resolved, it turned out to be a lot trickier than I originally expected.

I made a change yesterday which I am hoping has resolved this issue.

We have tested it several times, and are now unable to replicate the previous problem.

If anyone still has problems, please can they let us know.

Thanks
Daniel

Hi, I'm unable to add a new alternative number, or access the Contact page - each giving me a 'Disallowed HTTP Referer! ("")' error.
Great site - keep at 'em!

I likewise am having difficulty entering new alternative numbers.

The form is shown, but when I click submit, I'm told that I didn't enter the verification code - even though I did.  Several attempts result in the same error.

This fix is for Firefox users only.

I managed to find the fault, in my Firefox about:config settings, I had enabled network.http.sendRefererHeader=0 , this stops websites from knowing the last webpage I was on. I enabled this setting, as a security procedure to stop websites tracking me all over the internet.

When I changed this setting back to the default network.http.sendRefererHeader=1 , then the Contact Us button works again. But I searched for a fix as I shouldn't have to lower my security settings just to get this website to work.

And I found an easy work around for this, it's to install a Firefox extension, RefControl. It's found at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/953 . You need to install this, reload Firefox and then go to Tools -> RefControl Options , then click Add Site, and type in saynoto0870.com . In the Action section, click the Custom: radio button, and type in "1" (without the "") into the text box. Now click OK, and look for the Edit button to the right of the "Default for site's not listed", click it and in the Action section click on the radio button for "Block - send no referer".

This will keep the referer blocked on all other websites, but enable it for Saynoto0870.com. I personally did this and now both the "Contact Us" and also the "Click here to Add an new Telephone number" links work.

bbb_uk wrote on Feb 21^st, 2007 at 6:59pm:

When you visit a webpage under certain circumstances your browser will pass on the website address of the site you were just visiting - known as referral information. The database has been suffering from a lot of automated spam recently and as such Daniel, site admin, has recently introduced new things to try and stop this.  The most noticable one was the introduction of a verification code which is commonly found on a lot of things these days along with only allowing entries to be added providing users only accessed it via normal methods (ie clicking on it from the main page).

That's understandable, but there must be a better way. I'm not prepared to lower my security settings or add FF extensions (I keep extensions to a minimum, having had various FF problems caused by them). Why is it that I can place orders on all sorts of websites, do online banking, contribute to various blogs, etc, but can't add a new number to sayno? It's very frustrating that I've wanted to add several alternative numbers over the last 9 months, but have had to keep them to myself.

If you are still having problems with submitting numbers, you could also make a post in the Geographic Requests forum and a member or admin can add them to the database for you. Not being able to submit them yourself should not be a reason to keep them off :).

OK. Thanks. For many months until today, I haven't even been able to access the forum, but now I'm back in. From now on, I'll use the Geographic Requests forum, as you suggest, when I have new numbers. Sadly, I didn't keep a record of those I wanted to add earlier.

Hi - is someone messing with the site?!? When I try to access the Add a Number page (http://www.saynoto0870.com/add.php) I get the following error:

"An error occured while trying to access the 'Add a new alternative number' page.

Please click here to try again

If this error persists, please contact us quoting the following error message in full:

Disallowed HTTP Referer! ("") "

I get the same "Disallowed HTTP Referer! ("") " when trying to access the Contact Us page (http://www.saynoto0870.com/contact/)