SAYNOTO0870.COM
https://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi
Main Forum >> Geographical Numbers Chat >> Co-op Travel
https://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1232659076

Message started by BenDToy on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 9:17pm

Title: Co-op Travel
Post by BenDToy on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 9:17pm
I saw a TV advert by Co-op travel advertising 0845 as "local rate". I understand this is wrong, but who do I complain to?

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by irrelevant on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 9:56pm
The ASA.
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/
You may wish to remind them of their previous adjudications on this issue, e.g.
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_43684.htm
as sometimes they forget..

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by Dave on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:46pm
Links to other ASA adjudications are here.

They have said a couple of times that the use of the "local rate" term is not only misleading because 0845 isn't charged as such, but also because it serves to reinforce the myth that there is still such a thing. Refer to the Datel Group adjudication for more on this.

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by BenDToy on Jan 26th, 2009 at 11:36pm
Thanks folks - complaint submitted.

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by DaveM on Jan 27th, 2009 at 7:36pm

BenDToy wrote on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 9:17pm:
I saw a TV advert by Co-op travel advertising 0845 as "local rate". I understand this is wrong, but who do I complain to?

This may be rather futile now seeing as the BT rates changed on 16th January to make them inclusive for those on option plans, and they are still charged at the local rates for those not on a plan !

I don't think you'll win anytime soon  ::)

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by irrelevant on Jan 27th, 2009 at 7:58pm

DaveM wrote on Jan 27th, 2009 at 7:36pm:
This may be rather futile now seeing as the BT rates changed on 16th January to make them inclusive for those on option plans, and they are still charged at the local rates for those not on a plan !


Only for those whom are BT, and only BT, customers.

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by Dave on Jan 27th, 2009 at 8:42pm

DaveM wrote on Jan 27th, 2009 at 7:36pm:

BenDToy wrote on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 9:17pm:
I saw a TV advert by Co-op travel advertising 0845 as "local rate". I understand this is wrong, but who do I complain to?

This may be rather futile now seeing as the BT rates changed on 16th January to make them inclusive for those on option plans, and they are still charged at the local rates for those not on a plan !

This is an interesting point. They are not the same; they are in fact less.

Those on BT Calling Plans (formally BT Together Options) will be charged as follows:

Unlimited Weekend Plan (Formerly known as BT Together Option 1)

Daytime (01/02/03) 3.92ppm
Daytime (0845) 1.96ppm

Evening (01/02/03) 1.47ppm
Evening (0845) 0.49ppm

Weekend (01/02/03/0845) 0p for first hour


Unlimited Evening & Weekend Plan (Formerly known as BT Together Option 2)

Daytime (01/02/03) 3.92ppm
Daytime (0845) 1.96ppm

Evening (01/02/03/0845) 0p for first hour

Weekend (01/02/03/0845) 0p for first hour


Unlimited Anytime Plan (Formerly known as BT Together Option 3)

Daytime (01/02/03/0845) 0p for first hour

Evening (01/02/03/0845) 0p for first hour

Weekend (01/02/03/0845) 0p for first hour

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by Dave on Jan 27th, 2009 at 9:21pm
I wouldn't bet against the cost of chargeable 0845 calls from BT lines going up in the next few months/quarters.

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by NGMsGhost on Jan 28th, 2009 at 11:42am
Also don't forget that BT Payphones division charges a whopping 19.5p per minute to call an 0845 number versus only 1p per minute to an 01/02/03 number, albeit that both are subject to the same 40p minimum call charge.

Regardless of the BT price changes for 0845 and 0870 calls for BT Together plan customers and regardless of DaveM's distinctly sarcastic and unhelpful attitude towards the OP (#) this advert quite clearly still violates ASA guidances and is incorrect because there is no longer a local call rate in this country.  There is just a single national call rate for any call in the UK and the only thing that varies is the tarriff rate associated with the number you have dialled.

Any complaint to the ASA on this matter should be therefore be successful.

Could the time, date and channel on which this advert occurred please be given by the Original Poster so that more of us here may submit a complaint to the ASA.


# DaveM ~ Inflamatory comment removed, spelling mistake left !!

Title: Re: Co-op Travel
Post by BenDToy on Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:30pm
Thanks to those who have been helpful and supportive. The ad was on 21 January at 7.45 on ITV1 Granada region (break in Corrie).

For clarity;

If I call an 0845 during the day it costs me X p/minute. (I don't really care how much it is, it still costs)

To call a local (or any other geographical number), regardless of when, it costs me nothing. This does not require a debate.

SAYNOTO0870.COM » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2024. All Rights Reserved.