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Main Forum >> Call Providers >> Flextel "close" 0870 https://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1241122365 Message started by irrelevant on Apr 30th, 2009 at 8:12pm |
Title: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by irrelevant on Apr 30th, 2009 at 8:12pm
They are blaming ofcom, of course, for being unable to continue offering 0870 numbers except in a few limited ways.
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Title: Re: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by jgxenite on Apr 30th, 2009 at 8:30pm
Flextel always seem to give the impression they are so hard done to, and yet they must be making a fortune out of the call revenue from 070, 0844 and 0871 numbers (and obviously 0870 numbers up until Ofcom stops the revenue share on them).
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Title: Re: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by Barbara on May 1st, 2009 at 8:32am
I expect I've misunderstood but wouldn't this be a good thing? If not, could someone explain please?
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Title: Re: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by jgxenite on May 1st, 2009 at 8:47am
It is a bit confusing, I'll give you that. From what I can tell, yes, it is a good thing.
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Title: Re: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by SilentCallsVictim on May 1st, 2009 at 9:21am
From a business perspective any limitation to legitimate trade is a bad thing. The fact is that the 0870 business (along with all other use of revenue sharing numbers) is based on a model that does not work fairly in the context of competition on telephone tariffs.
When 084 was tied to the "local call rate" and 087 to the "national call rate" all was well. These rates no longer apply, although the fiction that they do is maintained. From the day when the cost of making a local or national call fell below that for making a call to a 084/087 number these numbers became "premium rate". Sadly, neither Ofcom, the providers nor the users of these numbers took the trouble to make this clear to consumers. The anger that has been generated in response to this situation has been cynically exploited by BT. If Flextel and others had been effective in promoting the alleged benefits of lower-premium-rate numbers to consumers (of the numbers and of their services) in a clear and transparent manner, then neither this campaign, the action by Ofcom, nor the clever intervention by BT would have been necessary. Perversely, this campaign and the recent move by BT have raised awareness of the dangers of calling 0870 numbers to a level that may not exist for the alternative 0871 and 0844 ranges. For this reason, and also if Ofcom's objectives for 0870 were to be achieved (which is far from clear), then 0870 is not the problem that it once was. If Flextel is simply moving customers on to the alternatives then perhaps this cannot be said to be a good thing! |
Title: Re: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by DonQuixote on May 3rd, 2009 at 11:11pm
What is really confusing is 087 is soon to be classed as premium rate, except for 0870, which will cost the same as 01, 02 and 03 numbers and much cheaper than 0844 and 0845, unless your calling from a mobile in which case you'll pay possibility up to 50p/min. Wow! Ofcom have really simplified things. ;)
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Title: Re: Flextel "close" 0870 Post by Dave on May 3rd, 2009 at 11:14pm DonQuixote wrote on May 3rd, 2009 at 11:11pm:
Indeed. Those who went for 0845 numbers because they were local rate (back in the day) now find themselves at a disadvantage to those on 0870 who deliberately set out to charge a premium. |
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