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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #30 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 11:39am

Shiggaddi

thenumbercompany.co.uk seem to be the best financial deal for a "personal" 0871 number.

Only downside is that their £5/month minimum payment doesn't roll over, but with a minimum rebate of 3.75p/min (more in evening / at weekend), you've more chance of reaching it in the first place.

Have you had any problems dealing with them since you set it up? (do they pay up, basically?)

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What's the point of 0845? Local rate my ar$e. Usually MORE than Inverness to Penzance on normal nos. Occasionally the same, never less!&&&&OFCOM - A Truly Great Regulator, if you're out to gouge consumers

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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #31 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 2:55pm

Have I got the wrong web site?!!! Roll Eyes

This site is supposed to be SAYNOTO0870.COM !!!!

I constantly got calls which ended as soon as I picked up the phone, regardless how many rings. If I did a 1471, it always came up with a 0870 number. I wasn't stupid enough to press 3.

I just wonder how many of those calls were made by the members here? even from Mr copperbean's customers? Well done Mr Copperbean - here is a free forum for you to do business.

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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #32 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 8:17pm

The answer is none.

In simple terms, for the number to come up as 0871 the software at the exchange needs to be altered. Not a service we provide. Next time you dial 1471 and discover a 0870 type of number why not look it up using the free facilities on this website. You might then discover which company is trying to call you. As a number of companies and government agencies use ngn's they could be calling you for a number of reasons. Yes, it may be a sales call, but then again it might also be your bank letting you know that your account is overdrawn giving you the opportunity to correct it and save overdraft fees. Believe it or not some banks do that.

As for business forum, not really. Around five customers have signed upto my telecoms service since my first post many months ago. Total revenue from these customers so far, less than the cost of a 2nd class stamp. I suspect many more have signed up to numbers via the adverts on this website, the revenue from the adds contributing to the running costs of this website. Likewise, why not check out our links at http://www.copperbean.co.uk

Finally, prehaps I could point out the obvious to everyone. It costs money for the companies to call you. No one could seriously make money on the basis that they hope to receive a call back after you use a 1471 service, particually as many companies also allow you to contact them for free via their websites.

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Have a look at the copperbean website. www.copperbean.co.uk

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caroboy Newbie Offline I hate to be ripped off Posts: 10 Manchester Gender:	Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number Reply #33 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 10:35pm Mr Copperbean, The reason why i come to this forum is simple: Say NO to 0870. So NO! I am not going to find out who was calling me and why it hanged up as soon I answered the calls. I am surprised that you are not banned from this forum yet.
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BexTech Junior Member Offline A Proud European! Posts: 66 Gender:	Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number Reply #34 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 10:52pm It's so people like myself can have such a number, and use it to get back at these companies, which I have been doing so for many years.
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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #35 - Feb 15^th, 2005 at 11:52pm

Caroboy,

The forum title is Get your own 0871/0870 number. If you have no interest in this particular forum why contribute? To suggest that I should be banned for positivly contributing to the forum title, is a bit strong.
Whats the point of a discussion forum without a discussion?

My suggestion to you that you should use this website to findout what company is calling you is still valid as it then allows you to use free email once you have identified a company so you can spell out your objections to them using NGNs.

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Have a look at the copperbean website. www.copperbean.co.uk

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caroboy Newbie Offline I hate to be ripped off Posts: 10 Manchester Gender:	Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number Reply #36 - Feb 16^th, 2005 at 12:01am Let me repeat, the point is very simple: Say No to 0870 ! I don't care whether you are driven by greed, gripe or whatever reasons you can think of. You are just helping those ngn providers. by the way how much do you pay them monthly? and what kind of cut do they get? do i really care? not at all thank you.
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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #37 - Feb 16^th, 2005 at 12:15am

copperbean wrote on Feb 15^th, 2005 at 11:52pm:

Caroboy,

The forum title is Get your own 0871/0870 number. If you have no interest in this particular forum why contribute? To suggest that I should be banned for positivly contributing to the forum title, is a bit strong.
Whats the point of a discussion forum without a discussion?

My suggestion to you that you should use this website to findout what company is calling you is still valid as it then allows you to use free email once you have identified a company so you can spell out your objections to them using NGNs.

Regards

yes indeed this thread should have been edited/deleted in the first place.

the reason why I said you should be banned is that you have constantly advertised your own business here. According to the site owner, he had tried to stop those google ads but it was beyond his control. That's why i am surprised that you are still here advertising your business. both your and boxtech's signature tells me a lot.

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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #38 - Feb 16^th, 2005 at 12:40am

Well I think it is interesting; especially the remark from copperbean about the people here signing up with his service. Perhaps people's ideas of revenge by giving out such numbers to marketers, etc, are even more of a waste of time than I thought. I remarked to someone on another forum that you couldn't pay me 10p a minute, let alone a share of it, to receive such calls.

There are entirely legitimate uses of such numbers; using them from the included minutes on a mobile contract for international calls. I may sometime get an 0871 number that diverts to an international mobile; paradoxically this will make it cheaper to call from a landline.

Even premium rate numbers in some circumstances. One of the Daves is an IT support specialist. If I rang up for help, he wouldn't need to do a credit check, send a bill or worry about me not sending a cheque; completely automatic; what could be more convenient?

As for the ads, those can be interesting as well, without feeling tempted. Think of it as a chance to study the opposition; no foot-stamping needed to resist.

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Reply #39 - Aug 3^rd, 2005 at 10:40pm

I found it incredible that all of you who criticise that the companies are making money on 0870 numbers are happy to give out 0870 numbers so that you can make money.

It is also funny, this forum that supposed to be against 0870 numbers also have adverts from Google that has companies which sell 0870 numbers.

I think all of you (good samaritans!!!) are hypocrits. Incidently, will this website owner disclose how much money they have earned from google adverts that explicitly direct customers to 0870 companies?

All of you are hypocrits!!!

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mc661 Senior Member Offline Habitual FOI requester. Posts: 432 West-Norfolk Gender:	Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number Reply #40 - Aug 4^th, 2005 at 4:02am sorry but were only giving out our 0870's to other companies that use them. If every person in the uk did that theyd become useless as the company that uses them would be paying out more!
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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #41 - Aug 4^th, 2005 at 5:13am

I agree with mc661, my 0870 is provided only to companies using 0870/1 only as they make more money from us calling than the lower cost NGN's. I haven't made a penny from it and I'm not bothered if I do or don't. It comes in handy specifically for serial abusers of such numbers like CPW, Argos, Comet, etc where all of their contact numbers (bar one or two sales) are generally 0870. If these companies went back to geographical I wouldn't hesitate to provide a geographical to them.
Mr_Criticise wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2005 at 10:40pm:

...Incidently, will this website owner disclose how much money they have earned from google adverts that explicitly direct customers to 0870 companies?

It actually costs money to run a website especially bandwidth costs that can increase as more people use the website.

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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #42 - Aug 4^th, 2005 at 6:12am

Mr_Criticise wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2005 at 10:40pm:

I found it incredible that all of you who criticise that the companies are making money on 0870 numbers are happy to give out 0870 numbers so that you can make money.

It is also funny, this forum that supposed to be against 0870 numbers also have adverts from Google that has companies which sell 0870 numbers.

I think all of you (good samaritans!!!) are hypocrits. Incidently, will this website owner disclose how much money they have earned from google adverts that explicitly direct customers to 0870 companies?

All of you are hypocrits!!!

Mr _C.

1.Not all members of this site have there own ngn numbers.
2.Those that do, as far as i am aware, only offer them to companies that use them themselves,to make a point.Little(Few Pence) or no revenue would be made from from them,as they would not recieve enough traffic.
3.If you could be bothered to have a look around the site and read some of the postings before jumping in the deep end,you will see why the ngn google ads appear.
4.The site does not sell advertising space to ngn providers,and they are not sponsoring it.

Can i take it you are a ngn provider or work for one?

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Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number
Reply #43 - Aug 4^th, 2005 at 11:27am

Ditto bigjohn's comments. Also...
Mr_Criticise wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2005 at 10:40pm:

I found it incredible that all of you who criticise that the companies are making money on 0870 numbers are happy to give out 0870 numbers so that you can make money.

The fact that you see 0870 as being a way to make money just shows how little you of the 084/087 rip-off you understand. The primary reason for me having an 0870 number is so that it costs companies more to call me, in the same way it costs me to call them.

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I think all of you (good samaritans!!!) are hypocrits. Incidently, will this website owner disclose how much money they have earned from google adverts that explicitly direct customers to 0870 companies?

Of course, if you're so proficient at running a website, and you are against 0870 numbers, maybe you would like to set up your own website.

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All of you are hypocrits!!!

For a first post to end like this, I won't be sorry if you don't post again. The other point you made about this site advertising 0870 providers has been addressed many times before. If you could be bothered to look, you will see a 'sticky' thread about this in Site Related.

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mc661 Senior Member Offline Habitual FOI requester. Posts: 432 West-Norfolk Gender:	Re: Get your own 0871/0870 number Reply #44 - Aug 4^th, 2005 at 4:18pm These are the NGN numbers which I have, 0871 9 10 10 10 (which is extremly close to telestunt on 0871 9 99 10 10. 0871 9 10 10 11 0870 745 5067 These are only used when other big companies call me such as LTSB, dixons, etc. Oh and its used on any "call me back form" on a website such as abbey.
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