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timrochester
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Feb 8th, 2005 at 5:18pm
 
My friend is at Lancaster University and I don't like to phone the 0870 number, would prefer to use the REAL number if poss! The first digits of my friends number are:

0870 7535

There are another three seemingly random numbers, but I am reluctant to post them, as it is not my number!
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Re: Anyone got Lancaster University Halls Numbers
Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2005 at 11:46am
 
That number belongs to Your Communications Ltd.

Try the following three numbers:

01524 50
01524 51
01524 52

If you find the number, please post a reply here
and add it to the site's database.

By the way, the trailing "5" of the number you quoted is probably part of the extension number, so you still need to include it to make the correct number of digits. e.g.
01524 50 5xxx
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Reply #2 - Feb 9th, 2005 at 2:11pm
 
The extention number of my friend is not in anyway related to the outside line number, I admit this is strange but there appears to be no logical pattern.

I tried all three numbers with both the last four digits of the internal and external and her fone did not ring.

it rang continuously on two numbers but I would've thought that the university hall service would have an answering service and I let it ring ample times.

Any other suggestions? Thanks for your support!

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Reply #3 - Feb 9th, 2005 at 2:29pm
 
Do you just dial an 11-digit number to call direct to the room from the outside (i.e. 0870 753 5xxx) ?

You've probably tried all sensible combinations with those three codes already.

Do they use DogNBone phonecards? (It seems so from the website). We've discussed these before:
http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=...

It's a small company, so could use a different company to carry the calls (and the geographical and 0870 numbers could be different operators).

There are 57 codes allocated in Lancaster, so I guess the only method left is to try them all. (If you know it should go straight through to an answerphone, it shouldn't take too long...)

See this page for the numbers to try:

http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/search/Phones/oftel_cl_sabc_1524.html
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Reply #4 - May 27th, 2005 at 1:18pm
 
Hiya!

This information relates to CityBlock 1 & 2 in Lancaster - is it the same for the uni?

Original question was here:
http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=test;action=display;num=...

To dial out there are two methods available:
1. Dial 1414 and enter dognbonezone system OR:
2. Dial any allowed number (there is a list on our phones - eg. CityBlock management, Telephone Connexions, local police, room-to-room etc.) - these calls are free to us.

It is normal BT lines that are connected to our phone system. There are 10 BT lines that come into the building with switching equipment in the basement (which I have seen operating). Only 8 outside lines can be used at any one time with a recorded "Please wait for a moment - the system is busy" message if this is exceeded.

When using method 2) to dial out, we just pick up the phone and dial as normal. The BT line connects as normal. It is not a VoIP system.

If we dial a number not listed just from picking up the phone (as you would do at home), the system downstairs cuts off the line as soon as you dial a number different from what it expects - eg. CityBlock managment we could dial the same number, but change one digit and the system would cut off at that digit.

The telephone network is provided and maintained by the company telephone connexions (carlisle).

Sorry about the delay in answering the original thread - I set the Watch Topic option, but unfortunately didn't receive an email!

Thanks,
Alex.
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Reply #5 - May 27th, 2005 at 1:29pm
 
I have just tried to find out the geographic number by calling telephone connexions.

They insist there is no local number to point at - "the system is set up using an 0870 number only"

Can this be??

The customer services number is: 01228 518902.

I was originally talking to a nice person who answered and confirmed there was a 01524 local number and that we didn't use VoIP. Then I got put through to the guy who deals with the CityBlock phone system and he was very rude - "we wouldn't give it out to you anyway, thats how we make money", "it has nothing to do with anybody else, you deal with me or nobody"!!!

It seems they are very protective of their 0870 numbers!!!!

If anybody requires further info, please contact me.

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Reply #6 - May 27th, 2005 at 1:32pm
 
Just to clarify:

Dognbonezone do not provide the telephone system at either Lancaster Uni or CityBlock.

They just provide the ability to make calls and have no control over the incoming number or calls.

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Reply #7 - May 27th, 2005 at 3:49pm
 
Tell them you're having trouble with international callers getting through on the 0870 number, and that you require the geographical number for overseas callers.

That's what I did with ntl at Swansea University but they kept giving me a geo number which didn't work and said "sorry, can't do anything else".

It may work for you.  Give it a go Grin
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Reply #8 - May 27th, 2005 at 5:17pm
 
Ah, good idea! I'll try that on Tuesday =o)

I spent quite some time trying to find the geographic number today -
Here goes the chain:

1) Number allocated by BT ->

2) Number leased to Your Communications Ltd (0800 195 9000 www.yourcommunications.co.uk)

2) Number sub-leased to Catalyst Management Ltd (0800 092 0011 http://www.catalystmanagement.co.uk/)

3) Number sub-sub-leased to Telephone Connexions
(No website?)

4) Provided to Building (CityBlock 2)

All of these companies know the geographic number, but none will actually reveal it. BT state the number is ex-directory so cannot share it either.

Any suggestions what I can try?
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Reply #9 - May 27th, 2005 at 5:48pm
 
I don't think there is anyway to make them tell us.  In fact under the Data Protection Act they can refuse to tell us.

I'm guessing the only way they'll mention it (assuming the calling from overseas doesn't work) is that you get a helpful person on the other end who gives you the number without realising it!

That is, unless anyone else can think of another solution?
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Reply #10 - May 27th, 2005 at 9:23pm
 
You could track down their offices and hold them hostage till they agree to release the numbers Grin
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Reply #11 - May 28th, 2005 at 2:01pm
 
I think that would be a breach of more than the data protection act though......

The overseas caller excuse failed to work. The top two want written permission from the one below them in any case and telephone connexions was "in a meeting" (they won't help but they are nice people on the phone).

I think there is an industry standard protection ring around the geographical alternatives business. Maybe they even have their own mob to enforce it.....

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Reply #12 - May 28th, 2005 at 2:51pm
 
The top two want written permission of what?  Isn't it obvious that some countries can't call NGNs? Angry

You should seriously consider my earlier suggestion... Grin
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Reply #13 - May 28th, 2005 at 3:30pm
 
Permission they can disclose the number to me. The geographic number is supposedly protected under the trade secrets act - it is a secret of the trade which makes them money. To disclose it without written permission is an offence.  Shocked

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Reply #14 - May 29th, 2005 at 9:17am
 
Another idea - try to find someone with a personal number (070 prefix) as some of those actually identify witheld callers.  Argos sell a product like this in their catalogue.

Call that number/that person on the personal number and see what it is.  Worth a try Wink
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