Anybody using 3U?

0870 calls 2p peak 1p offpeak it seems.

Dear Mr Davies,

Thanks for your inquiry.

Unfortunately we don't offer service to 0845 numbers.  Our rates to 0870 numbers are: 2p/min. peak time Monday - Friday 8am-6pm) and 1p/min. off-peak time (nights and weekends).

Best regards,

Heidrun Weinmann

I wonder if they are stupid enough to have been fooled by the "National" and "Local" rate labelling of 0870 and 0845??  They can't offer those rates because at peak rates, providers receive around 3p per minute of the 0870 revenue so it can't possibly be! ???

Hi Smasher, the high volume scammers receive over 4 p per minute. If you look at even some of the Google ads on this site they are actually offering 4 p per minute for 0870s.

someone just posted on MSE that 3U tariffs for 0870, 0845, 118xxx, and other numbers had taken a very steep hike in prices eg 0870 and 0845 33p/minute, 118xxx about £3

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=79927

http://europe.3u.net/download/Special-dial-codes_UK.pdf

I think this just confirms what has been suggested previously(http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=cheapcalls;action=displa...), that being based in Germany 3U were not aware of this scam with various 08s and 07PNS being used as covert Premium numbers. This is in a sense poetic justice, or so I always feel whenever I see a telco provider taking a hit with these charges, and the list of overseas telcos who have taken hits from this scam grows all the time!

For those who have been following this scam since the beginning, we have seen various telcos (including mobile operators) who initally did not realise that they were taking a hit with these numbers, particularly where calls to these NGNs were included within an inclusive call package; almost all have since withdrawn them from inclusion and I do not doubt that the remaining one or two will follow suit when they get their sums done right so that they understand their profit position in reality!

There is no way in which these calls may be carried by any telco operator for less than the outline Premium provision (e.g. for 0870 of 4.5 p) plus the carrying and termination costs (most of which are paid to BT) without sustaining a loss.