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Sep 16th, 2005 at 8:21pm
 
The Digital UK campaign started today.  The full page advert on page 10 of today's Times and elsewhere, gives the phone number 0845 650 5050 to call for informatiuon about digital switch over.

No point in the advert doesit mention the cost of the call.  The ASA recently recommended that such calls should display a cost.

When I called it to see what it actually did, I was horrified to discover that it says right at the beginning of teh call "This call is being charged at Local Rate whether you are calling from a landline or a mobile.  Please contact your service provider for more information".

I have contacted Digital UK, (the name SwitchCo is using for the consumer).  I got a contact number from the DCMS).  I pointed out to them that the information on their phone line was factually inaccurate, and I have reported it to the ASA.  Ofcom cannot assist as it is an advertising matter so I am told.

I was told by a representative of SwichCo that they used guidance about call charges from the IPA (Institute of Practitioners and Advertisers), and also told me that the CCA (Contact Centre Association) said something different, and agreed that there was a difference of opinion between the different bodies as to how calls are charged, but opted for the IPA's guidance.

I have also asked for a geographic number for the helpline, and the  lady has promised to get back to me when they have investigated.

I appreciate there may not be a number if it is entirely a computerised info line, but if there is one, it would be very useful.  As it was their first day of the campaign, I apologised as it had only become aparent to me the inacccuracy once I had called the number.  I also pointed out that the most vunerable would get free help and this line is not free, even if they thought it was if their local and national calls are free.  So I am awaiting a response.

I would be interested if anyone has anything to say on this.  Not a good start is it? Sad

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Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2005 at 5:53am
 
Did you quote to SwitchCo the website links to ASA/CAP, OfCOM's & the Governments Central Office of Information guidelines on 084x/087x numbers?

I have just emailed the IPA (Institute of Practitioners and Advertisers) and CCA (Contact Centre Association) and advised them the truth about 084x/087x and included links to ASA/CAP, OfCOM and COI websites for further clarification.

I couldn't find any contact us information for www.switchco.co.uk but if you happen to have an email address for them then you could email them the relevant links for them to clarify this matter.

Below is a draft email you could use to send to switchco and includes relevant information for clarification on the cost of 0845 numbers.  This is just draft so obviously feel free to amend it as necessary.
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To whomever it concerns,

I have noticed you use a 0845 number for contacting yourselves and I would like to point out that according to ASA/CAP (Advertising Standards Authority), OfCOM and the Governments Central Office of Information guidelines calls to 0845 are no longer 'local rate' and calls to 087x are no longer 'national rate' and can no longer be described as this.  You are also no longer allowed to remain silent on the call cost (ie not display the cost of the call).

Since over a year ago, BT removed the difference between local rate calls and national rate calls and they now cost the same.  For example, calling from London to Scotland costs the exact same amount as calling from London to Essex - and that is 3ppm but yet ringing a 0845/0870 can cost more.

In fact BT charge nearly 4ppm for calls to an 0845 and nearly 8ppm for calls to an 0870 but yet other operators (Telewest/NTL, etc) actually charge more than BT and calls from payphones and mobile networks actually cost upto 40ppm to call these 084x/087x numbers.

Also, as you may or may not be aware that not all operators outside the UK will allow connection to a UK NGN (non-geographical number) beginning with 084x/087x.

Are you aware of the new revised edition of Governments' Central Office of Information guidelines and I quote the following paragraph from it:-

"(2) 0845 in particular has been known as ‘local rate’ – however with increased competition in the marketplace and resultant changes in tariff structures, these rates will often be in excess of normal local rates that citizens might be charged on their package. 0845 (and 0844) costs through phone boxes and some mobile tariffs can also be expensive to the citizen and this should also be considered."

For further information on the ASA’s decision that advertising your 0845 number as ‘local’ (0870 as 'national') rate or remaining silent on the call cost is now classed as misleading can be read here:-

http://www.cap.org.uk/cap/advice_online/ad_alerts/Advertising+0845+and+087+numbe...

and here:-

http://www.asa.org.uk/cap/news_events/news/2005/hanging+on+the+telephone+on+and+...

Also, information on OfCOM’s guidelines (similar to that of the ASA) can be read here:-

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/mofaq/telecoms/0870faq/#content

Due to the problems dialling an 084x/087x and the excessive costs involved (especially from payphones and mobiles), I noticed that OfCOM have now changed their 'Contact Us' page that used to mention a 0845 but now states that for the majority of callers (over 95%) it is cheaper to call their geographical and not their 0845 number.  This can be viewed here (you need to scroll down a bit):-

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/advice/contact/

Yours sincerely
Then depending on who I send the email to I go and on a bit more.  For instance in this case you could say they are likely to get OAP's, etc who really can't afford to ring an 0845 due to its costs or may not even have outgoing calls on their line (to save costs) so they may use a mobile or payphone, etc and obviously this can cost upto 40ppm.

Basically making them fully aware of their decisions and possibly consequences to use an 084x/087x numbers.
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Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2005 at 8:02am
 
Thanks for that.  I think a copy would not go amiss to Saga 106.6 FM also.  I did not realise that it was cheaper for 95% of the population, I thought it was 60%.  I must mention all-inclusive plans as well, as some companies don't charge for geographic numbers, and BT charges 5p/hour on one tarrriff.

I shall let you know how I get on.  Thanks for your help.  Smiley
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2006 at 4:55pm
 
The website, www.digitaluk.co.uk doesn't appear mention an address.

FAQs says:
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Who is behind Digital UK?

Digital UK is operated by SwitchCo Ltd. SwitchCo Ltd was set up at the request of Government. It is jointly owned by the UK's public service broadcasters (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Five, S4C and Teletext), SDN and National Grid Wireless.


Even the media must contact them on an 0845 number, see here.

A whois of digitaluk.co.uk (a lookup of who's registered it) is the only way we might find out where they are:
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Registrant:
        Switchco Limited

     Registrant type:
        UK Limited Company, (Company number: 5422613)

     Registrant's address:
        c/o DTI Bay 226
        151 Buckingham Palace Road
        London
        SW1W 9SS
        GB

     Registrant's agent:
        British Broadcasting Corporation [Tag = BBC]

The name servers are all bbc.co.uk ones, so maybe the BBC is hosting the site.

Found this page by searching using company name. Address is given as:

Digital UK (Digital UK Ltd)
Met Building
22 Percy Street
London
W1T 2BU

Another website that they operate is http://www.digitallogo.co.uk/
Also, a government one http://www.digitaltelevision.gov.uk/
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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2006 at 3:24pm
 
This .pdf press-pack (page 6) gives us more of an idea of who is involved in it all:-

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Digital UK is the independent, not-for-profit organisation set up by the broadcasters to lead the UK's switch to digital television. Digital UK is jointly owned and funded by the public service broadcasters (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Five, S4C and Teletext), and the transmission companies SDN and National Grid Wireless. The company launched in September 2005.

Digital UK’s role is to co-ordinate the technical roll-out of digital terrestrial television (digital TV through an aerial) across the UK, region by region, to a timetable agreed by Government, and to communicate with the public about digital switchover.

Digital UK is also working with digital platform operators, equipment manufacturers, installers, retailers, rental companies, charities and consumer groups to co-ordinate the technical roll-out of digital television across the UK and ensure understanding and support for the switchover programme.

The Board:
Barry Cox - Chairman
Ford Ennals - Chief Executive
Andy Townend - Operations Director
Beth Thoren - Communications Director
Alex Pumfrey - Strategy & Policy Director

Along with:

Mike Hughes Broadcaster Director, Digital UK
Caroline Thomson Director of Strategy & Policy, BBC
Tim Davie Director of Marketing, Communications & Audiences, BBC
Christy Swords Director of Regulatory Affairs & Managing Director, ITV London, ITV
David Scott consultant to Channel 4
Grant Murray Director of Finance, Five
Arshad Rasul Director of Engineering & Technology, S4C
Mike Stewart Managing Director, Teletext
Steven Marshall Chief Executive, National Grid Wireless
Simon Pitts, Managing Director, SDN Ltd
Laurence Harrison Director of Consumer Electronics, Intellect UK
Danny Churchill Technology Consultant, DSGI


According to the contact details of two DigitalUK staff, they have geographical numbers in the region of 020 7462 54xx.  In fact, it could be 020 7462 5xxx depending on how many staff are there.  Of course the call centre taking calls for DigitalUK enquiries may not be based at this location and could even be the infamous Capita that the BBC and some other government departments outsource their call centres to.
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Reply #5 - Apr 8th, 2007 at 1:40am
 
Hello there 

Does anybody know please of an alternative number for the Digital UK helpline?

Their nunber is listed as:    (08456) 50 50 50


Their website is: http//www.digitaluk.co.uk 
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Reply #6 - Jul 27th, 2007 at 4:10pm
 
Does anyone have a free/normal phone number for the DigitalUK helpline which answers queries on switching to digital TV? The number they give in their TV ads and on their website is 08456 50 50 50. Anyone cracked this one?
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Reply #7 - Nov 23rd, 2007 at 7:31pm
 
Hi.  It would appear that the Digital UK Switchovewr Information Line is based in Glasgow.  The non geo is 0845 650 5050.  The One for the Disabled and over 75s is 0800 519 2021.

However, it would appear that no-one knows the 0141 number.  Can anyone help out?  Any idea which company runs the call centre?  Thaty might give a clue.

Thanks for your help.
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Reply #8 - Nov 23rd, 2007 at 7:57pm
 
jimbo2005 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2007 at 7:31pm:
Hi.  It would appear that the Digital UK Switchovewr Information Line is based in Glasgow.

How do you know it is based in Glasgow?
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Reply #9 - Nov 23rd, 2007 at 8:04pm
 
bbb_uk wrote on Oct 21st, 2006 at 3:24pm:
Of course the call centre taking calls for DigitalUK enquiries may not be based at this location and could even be the infamous Capita that the BBC and some other government departments outsource their call centres to.


If the information previously given about the call centre being in Glasgow is correct, then it is possible that it has in fact been outsourced to Capita. A Google of "capita+0141" reveals many offices and 0141 number for Capita.
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Reply #10 - Nov 23rd, 2007 at 8:43pm
 
The operator told me they were in Glasgow.
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Reply #11 - Nov 23rd, 2007 at 8:53pm
 
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Reply #12 - Nov 23rd, 2007 at 8:59pm
 
Does it surprise you that Capita have an 0870 number for their press office... or the fact that they have won the contract to offer help line services for Digital UK...
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Reply #13 - Sep 2nd, 2008 at 11:44am
 
Just come across this which may be relevant to finding where the Digital UK helpline is hosted:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7240945.stm
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Reply #14 - Sep 2nd, 2008 at 11:51am
 
It seems that eaga only run the help scheme - http://www.helpscheme.co.uk/ - not the main switchover helpline.
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