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Oct 12th, 2005 at 2:45pm
 
Hi,

I did a search but couldn't find an existing thread for York.

Basically I'm looking for a geographic number for the accomodation numbers. The 0870 number in question is 08707583XXX - according to the OFCOM list this is allocated to Your Communications, but they don't seem to have an allocation in the York area code (01904).

The telephone system here seems to be seperate to the 'phone system for the rest of the University. The extension number is 71XXXX, whereas admin, etc, is a 4 digit number. To contact an admin department from a room phone, you have to prefix the 4 digit number with 43 - which is also the geographic phone number normally used (01904 43XXXX). The 0190443 allocation is allocated to BT, as is the 0190471 allocation, but attempting the obvious and dialling 0190471XXXX returns number unobtainable.

The service is Dognbone, so if there's anyone who can help me I'd be much obliged Smiley.

Thanks, Chris Northwood.
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Reply #1 - Oct 13th, 2005 at 10:04am
 
About a year ago, I mentioned York in passing in a thread on another university that used dognbone:

http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=...

Then I seemed to come to the conclusion that they are a small company operating out of a farm, so would use other companies to carry their calls. The provider of the 0870 and local numbers could be different, or they could use the 0870 to route to a VoIP system with no real numbers.
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Reply #2 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 2:25pm
 
It's a longer shot, but with these DDI arrangements the first digit is often changed:-
You might try dialling each of
0190471[b]0[/b]XXX
0190471[b]1[/b]XXX
0190471[b]2[/b]XXX
0190471[b]3[/b]XXX
0190471[b]4[/b]XXX
0190471[b]5[/b]XXX
0190471[b]6[/b]XXX
0190471[b]7[/b]XXX
0190471[b]8[/b]XXX
0190471[b]9[/b]XXX

dropping the first digit of the 4 digit Internal number XXXX.

You may have a few apologieds to make before finding the right one.
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Reply #3 - Oct 22nd, 2005 at 4:08pm
 
Catalyst Management has very little information on its website.

I don't think you'll find it as easy as using the 01904 71 prefix, it will probably be a different system provided by another telco.

Information on York Uni's website is here. News about the university's switch of phone operator is here.

As there are no Your Communications prefixes in York, you could try the following providers:
  • Thus Plc: 01904 85 Change date: 06/2002
  • Torch Communications:
    • 01904 32 Change date: 05/1999
    • 01904 56 Change date: 07/1994
  • NTL:
    • 01904 33 Change date: 05/1995
    • 01904 34 Change date: 05/1995
    • 01904 80 Change date: 01/1998

From posts on this site Liverpool University has two systems (KeyCom and Dog 'n' Bone) with different 0870s. I'm not sure which is which, but the Your Comms 0870 is attached to a Thus geographical, so I suggest you try that first.
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Reply #4 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 12:18am
 

Hi,

Ive got a big problem with this one. York Uni is supplied by Dog'n'Bone, and the number in halls is 08707xxxxxx Can anyone tell me what the actual phone number would be if you wanted to call the room using the area code which is 01904

Any help is appreciated... Undecided

Thanx
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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2006 at 2:49pm
 

Dear Chris,

Have you had anymore luck with the York Uni numbers? Im still trying to figure out what the 'real' number would be for a halls 0870 number, any help you might be able to give me is appreciated.

Thanx,

A

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Reply #6 - Jan 19th, 2006 at 8:19pm
 
codecracker, have you tried any of the prefixes I have suggested?
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Reply #7 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 4:23pm
 

Yes, but they are not for Dog'n'Bone, and thats the company that supplies the uni at York...and so the number Im trying to work out.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Reply #8 - Jan 20th, 2006 at 5:28pm
 
codecracker wrote on Jan 20th, 2006 at 4:23pm:
Yes, but they are not for Dog'n'Bone, and thats the company that supplies the uni at York...and so the number Im trying to work out.


You mean the numbers Dave gave you in October? Dog 'n' Bone is only a brand name used for the service. It isn't the name that the numbers will have been allocated under by Ofcom. If you are serious about finding the geo number, please try those numbers Dave suggested!
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Reply #9 - Jan 21st, 2006 at 3:17pm
 
jrawle wrote on Jan 20th, 2006 at 5:28pm:
... Dog 'n' Bone is only a brand name used for the service. It isn't the name that the numbers will have been allocated under by Ofcom. ...

Ditto jrawle's comments.

Other university accommodation sites that use Dog 'n' Bone have geographical numbers provided by the above communications companies.

Try each prefix with the last four digits of the internal extension number. Let us know what you've tried.
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Reply #10 - Jan 26th, 2006 at 10:02am
 
I don't know whether this extra info helps, but my own number at York is 08707585***, where the last two digits match the last two digits of my internal extension number.

It appears that the 0870758 part is constant, but different places have the next number changed.

I haven't tried everything yet, but  I know that 0190485(last 4 digits of my extension) is a valid number, just not mine.
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Reply #11 - Jan 26th, 2006 at 5:43pm
 
elcondor wrote on Jan 26th, 2006 at 10:02am:
I don't know whether this extra info helps, but my own number at York is 08707585***, where the last two digits match the last two digits of my internal extension number.


Try the numbers Dave suggested above with the last four digits of your internal extension. I seem to remember this was how it worked at another university.
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Reply #12 - Jan 26th, 2006 at 7:42pm
 
elcondor wrote on Jan 26th, 2006 at 10:02am:
I haven't tried everything yet, but  I know that 0190485(last 4 digits of my extension) is a valid number, just not mine.

How do you know? Who's is it? Is it anothers student's room phone?

jrawle wrote on Jan 26th, 2006 at 5:43pm:
Try the numbers Dave suggested above with the last four digits of your internal extension. I seem to remember this was how it worked at another university.

If 01904 85xxxx gets you through to another student phone, then I suggest that that may well be the prefix for all the halls rooms' phones. It's just that the last four digits of the geographical might not be the same as the extension.  Undecided
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Reply #13 - Jan 26th, 2006 at 8:23pm
 
I don't know if it's another student number, I just rang it on a mobile while seeing if my phone rang  Grin

What seems interesting to me is that some of the numbers in the York 0870 range also seem to be valid numbers at Lancaster.

That said, I haven't tried Torch Communications yet, and their name seems to ring a bell from some maintenance work that was done a while back.
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Reply #14 - Jan 27th, 2006 at 8:53am
 
The Torch prefixes don't work either - again, they appear to be already used for some other telephony system.

Frankly, I don't think that NTL would be providing this service, but I could be wrong.
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