Andrew_S_Hatton wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

I wish to acknowledge the point you've raised, although there is nothing I can do about it.

I have pointed out shortcomings like this to site admin many many times. As I am not involved in the operational side of the site, I cannot do anything to change this.

I always encourage users to join the forum and post about updates, additions and removals to/from the database that are found to be necessary. Entries submitted using the Add form will be likely to stay unverified.

Whilst in no way the only shortcoming, the fact that entries are submitted anonymously, means that all must be verified as we have no idea who added them. Updates that are submitted as new (unverified) entries will be at the bottom of the listings, so users will still see the old/wrong number first, and I guess they will try it.

If you don't wish to post publically, you can always e-mail me, dave {at} saynoto0870 {dot} com, although posting in the forum puts your comments on public record which might be useful at a later date should that number stop working for whatever reason.

Heinz wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 1:02pm:

I use Firefox and to search, you just start typing whilst on a page and it will jump to that text on the page (if it is found). I usually type the STD code of the number I'm looking for.

Firefox doesn't require the user to select Edit > Find, or press any other key.

I'm not familiar with other browsers; whether they have such a feature. It might be called "Find as you Type" or something similar. Some browsers have add-ons and perhaps an add-on is available for this if it isn't supported by the browser's basic function.

If there isn't a Find as you Type tool, then you will probably find that there is a shortcut to get to the Find box, such as Ctrl+F or F3.


Heinz wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 1:02pm:

This will work where the name of the place has been added as part of the entry. Particularly with unverified entries (rather than verified ones), there are some where numbers have been added without telling us where the branch is for.

I can't find if this has been requested or suggested before in the forums, bit I think it would be very useful to add Saynoto0870 to a right click menu when you select or highlight a number on a web page.  In the same way that when you hightlight or select some text now, one of the menu options is "Search Google for...".  Why not a "Search Saynoto0870..." menu item?

Cheers.

Is SaynoTo0870 still current and up to date?

Forum Admin wrote on Apr 9^th, 2020 at 5:41pm:


Daniel,

Its good to know that after all these years you are in fact still the owner of and still maintain this website in respect of the hardcore group of companies and organisations that continue to illegally use 084, 087 or 070 or 09 numbers to contact them (or at least it is illegal if any of those numbers support a customer service function).

But if indeed the site is still operational can you please explain to me why recent attempts to add new alternative numbers to the site have been unsuccessful and although they are confirmed as being added they do not then ever appear when you do a number search for either the organisation name added or for the non geographic number one is providing an alternative for.

For instance I tried adding an alternative for Adam J Walker Associate's only listed contact number of 0845 226 9053 at www.adamjwalker.co.uk/contact-us/ of 01923 334881 (as listed at https://heronsgate.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/adam-j-walker---associates-26980022.ht
ml) and entered the correct code before adding it and did this twice but each time the number was not there when searched. And this is not the first time I have had this problem adding a new number to the site and every time I have tried to do so in the last couple of years the number is then not available to use.

So can you please explain what exactly is going wrong and why the primary purpose of this website in providing alternative geographic numbers for 084/7 number is seemingly no longer working successfully?

Forum Admin wrote on Mar 9^th, 2021 at 12:19am:


The reason your system seemed to be automatically rejecting the listing and not publishing it in a Search result after addition seems to be because the firm name I used was the one shown on their website at www.adamjwalker.co.uk/contact-us/ of Adam J Walker & Associates. The geographic alternative is shown at https://www.yell.com/biz/adam-j-walker-and-associates-rickmansworth-6645767/

I have now added it again as Adam Walker Associates and the number now does come up on a search result straight away.

So it seems the www.saynto0870.com number search system has a problem handling ampersands (& signs) or that the number addition system has an automatic block on any business name containing an ampersand (& sign)

As the 0845 number for Adam J Walker & Associates and its geographic alternative always currently seem to be engaged I have added a second number alternative for Adam Walker Associates of the geographic number for probate brokers www.finalduties.co.uk as their only company director as currently listed at https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06625147/offi
cers is Adam J Walker of precisely the same address at Heronsgate in Rickmansworth used by Adam J Walker & Associates.

However if you want to merge these two entries in to one and show both the 01923 number and the 01276 number as being geographic alternatives for the 0845 number than that's perfectly ok with me.

EDIT:- Actually it now turns out the best alternative geographic number for Adam J Walker is one that I see they have now added on their own website at www.adamjwalker.co.uk/contact-us/ as being one for "International Callers" of 01923 904 784 which clearly shows a woeful misunderstanding of the costs of calling 0845 from a UK mobile number in particular (and I very much doubt that EE owned by O2 include 0845 numbers in any of their free minutes on their call packages).

Anyway that number (01923 904784) was being answered just now when I called it and also asked if Mr Walker could call me back to explain about his involvement with probate brokers www.finalduties.co.uk where he is the only person listed in several of their 10 year old newspaper articles on their website and is the only Director of the company but he mysteriously doesn't seem to work there on a day to day basis but instead works for Adam J Walker & Associates.

Just that I have something of an interest in Final Duties having also had a probate quote for them on my late mother's estate that I decided not to go ahead with as it seemed to omit various crucial aspects of work on the estate compared to the over two times more expensive quote received from Co-op Financial Services (who I and my sister also didn't use in the end).

On checking again today it seems the two listing are there for Adam Walker Associates in the Unverified numbers section in Blue, rather than the Verified numbers section in White.

But in this situation of there only being search results in the Unverified Section you are returned a search results screen with no numbers showing on the section you are looking at and just a big blank page with "No numbers have been found in the main database that match the criteria you have just entered."

Only if you bother to manually scroll down the apparently null search results screen do you then find the unverified listings off the bottom of the screen.

But the question is with all the old stalwarts like Dave and bbb_uk (Kevin) seemingly no longer involved in the site how exactly does an Unverified number ever move to the Verified section. Also the search result listing where there are only Unverified number results is confusing as it makes it look like no search results have been found at all.........

EDIT:- Definitely something weird going on with number addition as just added an entry for Final Duties who share the same company director as Adam Walker Associates and that entry now isn't appearing at all as a search result, even in the unverified section of the search results.

SECOND EDIT:-Added the Final Duties entry again and now seems to be there and returned in a search result as an unverified entry.

Daniel,

For some years now I have never received any forum update or other emails from saynoto0870.com and although I have tried whitelisting the domain in my ISP settings even that does not work in saynot0870.com's case (it seems to work with almost everyone else who's emails get misclassified as spam).

I'm not sure exactly why that is the case.

I also received a sudden promise from Julie Drake at Adam J Walker in mid March that they would now be replacing the 0845 number with a geographic one but that it may take some time (for reasons not made clear).

But over a month later they are still showing only the 0845 number under Contact Us on their website..........