Shiggaddi
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BT's current basic inland call price list (i.e. excluding any discount tariff plans) Section 2, Part 1 states that Local calls cost 4p per minute daytime/1p per minute evenings/weekends, National calls cost 8p per minute daytime/4p evenings/1.5p weekends. Local calls are defined as the local STD code (01752 for Plymouth) and its surrounding STD codes (01364-ASHBURTON, 01503-LOOE, 01548-KINGSBRIDGE, 01579-LISKEARD, 01822-TAVISTOCK). All other 01xxx & 02xxx calls are National calls. Section 2 Part 12 sub part 1 states that all 0845 calls are charged at the Local rate.
Ah, the very old standard tariff option. If a proper investigation was carried out, it would have revealed that the majority of customers will pay more, as we were forced onto Option 1. Option 1, is now their standard tariff, with some more customers on Option 2, and Option 3, where calls to the old geographic number would be free on Option 3, and free during evenings and weekends on Option 2.
As we've stated in our press release that we recognise that some people will pay more to call 0845 numbers and have done some investigation to assess the impact of this. There will be some people, outside of the local area who will pay less.
Perhaps they can give an example of someone who has one of these special plans that gives cheaper calls to 0845 numbers, than 01/02 numbers. I can't find any from BT, apart from the light user scheme.
There are many mobile providers and networks, with numerous tariff plans and call rates. Vodafone have confirmed that their price plans charge the same for 0845 calls as for 01xxx and 02xxx, however this varies from 5p per minute upwards depending upon the specific price plan chosen by the individual.
Can you supply a copy of Vodafone's letter please? I'm under the impression that Vodafone don't charge the same rates for 0845 as 01/02, because I have inclusive minutes, and if I were to call 0845 numbers, I'd be charged for them. If you know any information to the contrarary, then please let me know, cos Vodafone confirmed to me, that calls to Non Geographic numbers are chargeable. This is confirmed in every bill I get, which is why I don't call them on my Vodafone.
Telewest, the supplier of the 0845 numbers, have confirmed that you can dial them from abroad. However, there may be some international destinations which apply some barring and again some international hotels and private payphone/phone systems may have introduced barring.
Right, better be careful of this, when I'm next on holiday, and check that I can call 0845 numbers back home, in case of emergency. If I'm in a hospital abroad that uses one of these systems, and the doctor urgently need to call Derriford for my patient notes, having a system that might bar calls to 0845 numbers, but allow calls to 01/02 numbers back at home might result in the difference between life or death. If this happens, I'm hoping that the media will have a field day out of this.
We have openly stated that we will receive income from 0845 calls, but this is not "just another money making scheme". The main point of the number change is to try to simplify and provide some consistency for the public when they contact us.
Isn't this charging for NHS services? You have argued 10 years ago, that charging for car parking at Derriford is acceptable because we can use public transport, and those who live in outlying villages with no bus route choose to live there, and choose to use the car. How can I avoid paying you, when I'm making a phone call then? Are you providing a geographic alternative, so we have a choice? If not, then we have no choice, we either pay you for your time on the phone, or not call.
If the Evening Herald have any journalistic integrity, then I hope that they will report this story and contradict the views on the NHS who seem to think we all pay 8p per minute to call 01/02 numbers, and get cheaper 0845 calls.
Out of interest, did they contact other mobile providers, or did they just come up with a response that they didn't want to publish, ie 0845 costs more at all times!! It's convenient that on one of two tariffs on Vodafone PAYG, or after you have used your inclusive minutes, it costs the same to call 0845, as it does 01/02 numbers!!
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