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Re: Northamptonshire police..
Reply #60 - Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:25pm
 
saynonto0871 wrote on Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:22pm:
Ha, they've either been taken for a ride big time & signed a really crap contract which allows the telecoms supplier to print money or the the cost of the contract for telecoms services was artificially low due to projected the call revenue.

So they're either p1ssing tax payers money don the drain or they're getting profit in kind.

FOI request Re: call revenues and telecoms contracts anyone?


I suggest they are getting the annual contract on the cheap or getting a switchboard or phone line rental free.  That's the normal setup with these 0845 schemed.

Try an FOI although uk Police forces are often notoriously devious at giving straight answers.  Police are subject to the FOI in all respects.
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Reply #61 - Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:31pm
 
I would suspect that they are profiting in kind, cheaper costs to the accountants.
But it's just as bad/same as receiving a big fat cheque from the call revenue.
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Reply #62 - Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:41pm
 
saynonto0871 wrote on Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:31pm:
I would suspect that they are profiting in kind, cheaper costs to the accountants.

But it's just as bad/same as receiving a big fat cheque from the call revenue.


Of course it is as bad.  It is extra taxation by the back door which is what New Labour does everywhere and through the massive Council Tax rises here in the South.

Try an FOI.  My FOI to the City of London Police about their hidden SPECS speed camera trap on Tower Bridge was very successful and led to an article in the Evening Standard.
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Reply #63 - Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:56pm
 
Grateful for suggestions on wording.
Basically i want to establish what they get for how much in their telecoms contracts so we can draw the conclusion as to whether it's artificially below cost/market rates due to the projected call revenue ging to the tels supplier
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Reply #64 - Mar 8th, 2006 at 9:21pm
 
saynonto0871 wrote on Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:56pm:
Grateful for suggestions on wording.
Basically i want to establish what they get for how much in their telecoms contracts so we can draw the conclusion as to whether it's artificially below cost/market rates due to the projected call revenue ging to the tels supplier


You are on the right lines.

Ask for telecoms supplier, cost of annual contract, whether there is an alternative geographic phone number for overseas and mobile phone callers, whether they were quoted other prices for use of other phone number alternatives eg geographic via voip and 0800 and what those other prices were, whether there is any revenue share from the contract supplier direct to Police.  Also whether additional cost of calls by general public using BT Options 2 and 3 or from mobiles or overseas were considered.  Also whether impossibility of accessing at all from overseas (well known as a problem with 0845) was considered.

Make sure to address your query to the Freedom of Information Officer:- foi@northants.pnn.police.uk

Or see their online FOI request website:- www.northants.police.uk/default.asp?action=article&ID=1877
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Reply #65 - Mar 8th, 2006 at 10:58pm
 
dont forget 'Best Value'
"Was 'Best Value' Considered at the time of tender"
Ask for a copy of the Tender document, it makes them work harder, theyll try and fob you off saying it will take too long to look at it or just censor it.
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