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Reply #15 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Second call today, on other phone line, from Nationwide Marketing Group.

Insisted that was their official company name...

Gave same 0151 phone number as Nationwide Home Improvements above, after some insistance, and confirmed they were in Widness.

Sounds like it's the same bunch of cowboys then!

Second TPS compaint form submitted...

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Reply #16 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Using http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ to look up company details
(but it wont give me unique urls to link I'm afraid)
It seems Nationwde Home Improments Ltd was indeed a disolved company
and Nationwide Homeimprovements Ltd is brand new and based in Fife

So I phoned the 0151 no. and asked for company name. Got Nationwide Home Improvements Ltd. Asked for company number; was referred to Head Office on 0870 445 1670
This isn't in database, and no results on google. So phoned it...
they say they are
NATIONWIDE WINDOWS AND CONSERVATORIES
unit 20 beck road
huddersfield
hd1 5dg

but that company name, if given a ltd, shows as being based in Bolton at compaies house.

They do however appear to be this bunch
http://www.nationwideathome.co.uk/?q=about
as phone num is the same.

....

ah ha!
http://www.nationwideathome.co.uk/?q=recruitment
Quote:

Whether you need full or part time, whether you are a student, or a mum needing to work.
If you need an additional income Nationwide could help you work in our state of the art call centres from between £6 per hour to £12 per hour

Contact us now with your application.

Positions currently available in Huddersfield and Widnes area.

and gives the beck road address.

So yep, it's the same outfit.

PS. looks like they used to be in the kitchen business.
From http://www.nkb.uk.com/contact/
Quote:

Nationwide Kitchens & Bedrooms of Ossett, Wakefield are in no way affiliated or associated with NATIONWIDE KITCHENS & BEDROOMS of HUDDERSFIELD. All enquiries regarding this company should be guided to 08704 451670 or Nationwide House, Unit 20, Beck Road, Huddersfield. HD1 5DG.

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Re: Nationwide Group!!!!!
Reply #17 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Following on from irrelevant's lead, I searched 192.com for businesses at the Widnes post code: WA8 0NQ

On Croft Street there are several other businesses in the same market, so are they connected?:

CKS Kitchens Limited
Unit 1 Victoria Trading Centre
Croft Street
Widnes
WA8 0NQ
Tel: 0151 422 0330
Web: http://www.ckskitchens.co.uk/
(Website gives tel/fax as 0870 164 2384)
Companies House website shows it as being in liquidation

Kitchen Design
Unit 1 Victoria Trading Centre
Croft Street
Widnes
WA8 0NQ
Tel: 0151 423 5524

Nationwide Kitchens & Bedrooms
Victoria House
Croft Street
Widnes
WA8 0NQ
Tel: 0151 424 4639
Fax: 0151 424 0125

The recruitment page referred to above gives an @mtiltd.biz email address. A Whois mtiltd.biz shows it registered at 20 Beck Road, Huddersfield. The organisation name is "Matthew Thomas Installations", so this is presumably what the MTI stands for in the domain name. There is a mobile number 07785 922433

UKData.com (see here) gives:

Quote:

MATTHEW THOMAS INSTALLATIONS LIMITED
Registered No. 05297298
Address: 42-44 CHORLEY NEW ROAD
BOLTON
BL1 4AP

See here. Matthew Thomas Installations has "Improved productivity" thanks to Telecom Applications...

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Reply #18 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

I think I've got the picture now.

This thread started because of cold calls from an 0871 number.

Digging appears to have revealed a plethora of companies with different (sometimes only a space making them different) names, at least one of which is dissolved and another of which hasn't submitted accounts since 2005.

Yes, I've got the picture.

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After years of ignoring govt. guidelines & RIPPING OFF Council Tax payers using 0845 numbers, Essex County Council changed to 0345 numbers on 2 November 2015

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Reply #19 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

I also have had calls from this company and complained to the provider of the number, they have today confirmed that the number used by Nationwide Home Improvements LTD will be disconnected today.

i will add that there is a nationwide home improvments in Dorset they are nothing to do with these scammers at all.

Hopefully this will be the end of these calls from this bogus outfit.

As of 5pm today the number is now dead, i took the pleasure of calling Nationwide on the 0151 number to advise them of this fact,lol.

Don't think they were too happy that i had there number disconnected.

Lets see if they get another number in future if they do i will no doubt do the same again.

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Reply #20 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Hi!

I've only just joined this website today and haven't worked out how it all works yet - but I can't believe I've found these posts about Nationwide Home Improvements. They are 'Nationwide Windows and Conservatories' + 'Nationwide Kitchens and Bedrooms' (Huddersfield) and I have spent the last few weeks collecting information about them because they owe me money. The more I dig, the more unbelievable and 'interesting' evidence I find and I already have a lot of info which I hope will eventually lead to a visit from Trading Standards and end up with the directors driving their silver Mercedes to court. If not, I might end up in jail for taking the law into my own hands!! I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has had dealings with them.

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Reply #21 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

hi vivian, got the same problem , im tracking them now after they have give me fobbed off excuses , saying they are still waiting for planning permission etc, etc, so now ive got the gutted feeling after reading all the posts that they are going to go missing with nearly 4 grand of my money, so seeing your post on google trying to find more info on this company , i think we should team up, i have a few good ideas to get more info from this group of robbing gits, mail me at my email address
? at ?.? so we can talk more

~Edited by bbb_uk: Removed personal email address

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Reply #22 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Some info for all who are owed money from Nationwide Home Improvments, when i was getting there number disconnected i was given some information that will be relavant to you guys, the sub dealer who sold them the number had been trying to contact them for some time and advised that they had major staffing issues and suffering big financial problems and all the calls they are making was a last ditch attemp to generate some money, so baased on that i think they will be vanishing again very soon and no doubt setting up in another name in the near future, the best advise i can offer is to send a recoreded delivery letter to the address they have i think its the one in huddersfield, if you dont get a reply issue a County Court Summons to them but not to the company to the director if you can get his name that way if he changes the company name you can still pursue him unless he goes bankrupt that is.

If anyone wants to do this and needs a little advise please feel free to email me as my background is law.

Regards

Trojan

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Reply #23 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Hi there! Thank you so much for that information. I don't want to say too much on here but as I said earlier I have gathered quite a bit of info and evidence from various sources that would be helpful to anyone else trying to get their money back. "...suffering big financial problems ..."? I can tell you how much money they took in orders last month, and I'm talking MEGAbucks - but I need to check that I haven't found out illegally before I tell anyone! This company have made me feel that I can't trust anybody, but if anyone wants to share info please email me at scam.busters@hotmail.com (I know!!!) and I'll get back to you. I have the directors' names and home addresses (there are 2 of them) and am visiting one of them this weekend in a last attempt to get my money back. Watch this space ... !

Warm wishes ...

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Reply #24 - Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:12pm

Hi! They won't be going missing just yet - they're planning another 'company holiday' to Portugal! I'll email you at the address you've given (my address is in the reply to Trojan - bless him) and perhaps we can share information - or visit them together. At the moment I live by the saying "Bad things happen because good people don't do anything about it." Well, this is one good person who is absolutely DETERMINED to do something about it ...

Stay in touch ...

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Reply #25 - Jun 29^th, 2007 at 9:10am

re your comments, i can confirm that Nationwide Windows & Consveratories and Nationwide Kitchens & Bedrooms are both limited companies in thier own right. they are owned by " group company" called Matthew Thomas inst Ltd. the company in osset is nothing to do with them the guy who owns that company lives in the states ( they are trading as Nationwide Kitchens & Bedrooms but are actually not called that and they are a little showroom business 4 man band type of thing, although i have heard they are not currently trading ( allegedly)) perhaps this is part of the problem . There is / are a number of Nationwide companies who are not linked, the 3 companies i have mentioned as the "MTI" group are stand alone, they do have offices in widnes, birmingham, huddersfield, bolton ect most of which are area sales offices the head office is the company account dept so i would send all money issuses there, they are not linked with any other companies, so Nationwide home improvements and any variation of this name is nothing to do with them, there are loads of companies with this Nationwide brand and loads more "Trading as", the MTI group do sell quite a lot of business ( millions a year) but that doesnt mean that they make loads of profit.

i have had conversations with trading standards re the MTI group and they have or are aware of NO major problems with the goods and fitting they provide, but rather than all this gossip why doesnt someone write to all these nationwide companies asking for clarification. if you have bought from them they will have left you with a copy of an order / contract and it will have the company name on it with the number so you can tell who which company it is.

by the way i would also point out 2 things. if a customer turned up on my door at a weekend and i was at home with my wife and kids i harranging me about stuff the last thing i would do is help them, also i would consider that if they are dodgy gangsters i dont know how they would react " baseball bats" maybe. i would suggest a better route woould be to write to the MD, as its a large company he may not even know about your issue

lastly although i do understand that people get robbed and there are enough dodgy people and companies out there, i would point out that you ahve agreed to the terms and conditions of this web site and you should read them. if MTI as company felt like it they could take most of you to court and win based on the comments you have made (slander ect), and dont think they can not get your details from this web site. they can

I have loads of information about the industry and have loads of friends who sell stuff for them, if you wnat any information about MTI or any other compnay give me a shout on this forum. i do not want to disclose who i am as i still work in the industry, which i am sure you will understand i know that the MTI group of companies is working within DMA best practice so these dodgy calls your getting must be from else where, or another company is giving out the wrong details on purpose................

there was a liverpool based wall coating company that was on the local radio that was selling wall coatings they got a proper tonking and they were called Nationwide home improvements, i think wirral trading standards shut them down this year but i have heard they have re opened in stoke?

viv in respect to your money back, what happened and how come they owe you money?

(sorry about the spelling)

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Reply #26 - Jun 29^th, 2007 at 10:26am

re whiteknight......

due to various messages i think i may have a clue which company you are actually linked with, i have not read any thread where anybody has threatened anybody with a baseball bat or indeed any type of violence and if they have then they are being very foolish because that is never the right course of action to take!
if you have read all the threads they mention several companies with all different addresses but each person has had some kind of bad dealing with each respective company varying from loss of money to unfinished work etc....
however when it has been simple to follow a thread and read information regarding mti you should understand that alot of the customers do not have money to burn and may well have worked hard for any products they bought therefore when things go wrong they have the right to have it rectified and thus reading info on certain threads can lead to panic.
i myself have been having problems with a particular company regarding issues that should have been resolved ages ago and although i would never use this company again or refer them on to friends and such i have had the good fortune to be in contact with one staff member who has in my views gone above thier call of duty to try and rectify the problems but this person cannot do it alone the company needs to stand up and offer some type of reassurance that things will be resolved at no extra cost to the customer.

When i read your post i got the impression that you are trying to hush pple up with the threat of court action do you not realise that pple will simply email each other re this topic if need be and still manage to warn others of the difficulties with certain companies, i dont agree that anybody has slandered anyone they have merely vented thier frustrations! Angry

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shaz_b Ex Member	Re: Nationwide Group!!!!! Reply #27 - Jun 29^th, 2007 at 11:01am trojanreaper, im still lost on this stuff are nationwide home improvements the same company as nationwide windows and conservatories based in huddersfield?
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Reply #28 - Jun 29^th, 2007 at 11:44am

Yes they are - also known as Nationwide Kitchens and Bedrooms. They are nothing to do with Nationwide Kitchens and Bedrooms of Ossett, and nothing to do with Nationwide Windows of Rugby (these are reputable companies). Their Head Office is in Huddersfield but they also have offices in Widnes and other places. It's not difficult to find info about the company if you know where to look. Contact scam.busters@hotmail.com if you want addresses or more info. They may not be trading illegally but they are certainly immoral, and owe me (and from what I can gather a lot more people) money.

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shaz_b Ex Member	Re: Nationwide Home Improvements - 0871 5200090 Reply #29 - Jun 29^th, 2007 at 11:59am hi vivienne i actually emailed you earlier, im still wating for a call from nationwide but i aint holding my breath hun ha ha, wat dya think about white knight comments
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