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Re: SayNoTo0870.com E-Petition
Reply #120 - Feb 16th, 2007 at 11:35am
 
Keith wrote on Feb 16th, 2007 at 11:19am:
Topped the 10,000 signature mark and about to enter the top 10 petitions.


No 11 now and staying ahead of Scrap Speed Camera surprisingly enough.  I suppose the number of users of this website to find alternate numbers to 084/7 who have been prepared to sign the petition may have been the main factor.

However I can just see Ofcom saying they have dealt with the 0870 issue from next year and are brining in 03 numbers if the media approach them.

The petition ought to have slammed Ofcom for failing to force proper disclosure of the actual cost of these calls and their tacitly permitting continued misdescription as local and national rate by organisations ranging from the Post Office through to BT and Sky, their failure to also force 0845 numbers to become geographically priced on 1st Feb 2008 and their failure to make 0871 and 0844 numbers move to the 09 prefrix code.  Also Ofcom's blatant failure to fulfil its primary duty to protect the best interests of the UK citizen consumer on this issue.

Surprising the make St David's Day a public holiday one is in the Top 10 but then there are over 1 million welsh people in the UK. Wink
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Reply #121 - Feb 16th, 2007 at 11:38am
 
Also its surprising about the Reduce the Classified period for Census data from 100 to 70 years one doing so well.  Must be a very organised campaign behind that one.
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Reply #122 - Feb 16th, 2007 at 2:24pm
 
Now in the Top 10 at Position 10 with 10,642 signatures having just overtaken the Make St Davids Day A National Holiday (or words to that effect) petition.
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Reply #123 - Feb 17th, 2007 at 12:18pm
 
Now in postion 9 with 12,016 signatures.

Something on the home page of this site today about recent publicity on BBC News 24 and another BBC channel making it much busier than usual.  Has this led to all the extra signatures on the petition?
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Reply #124 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 5:38pm
 
I've now registered on this forum.  Great to see the petition going so well - and I hope it also provides publicity back to this forum so that people can find alternative numbers.
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Reply #125 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 5:44pm
 
Hi,

You don't have to pay any monthly fee on top of your line rental to get the 0p/minute rate to 01/02 numbers.  You might want to have a look at http://www.call18185.co.uk ; - I'm using it and there is no monthly charge - they just bill you by direct debit for the calls you make - i.e. just the initial 5p connection charge per call, if you're on a BT line.

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Reply #126 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 7:59pm
 
mh wrote on Feb 18th, 2007 at 5:44pm:
You don't have to pay any monthly fee on top of your line rental to get the 0p/minute rate to 01/02 numbers.  You might want to have a look at http://www.call18185.co.uk ; - I'm using it and there is no monthly charge - they just bill you by direct debit for the calls you make - i.e. just the initial 5p connection charge per call, if you're on a BT line.

Welcome to the SayNo forums mh.

You're preaching to the converted there (have a look at the Cheap Call Providers forum - you may find some other tips).
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After years of ignoring govt. guidelines & RIPPING OFF Council Tax payers using 0845 numbers, Essex County Council changed to 0345 numbers on 2 November 2015
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Reply #127 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 8:15pm
 
Now in Position 8 with 13,628.  Can't be long before someone in the media picks up on its rapid ascendancy.

I only wish the petition had slated Ofcom for failing to prevent 084/7 numbers for still being widely described as local/national rate in material not covered by ASA guidelines and for failing to change 0845 over to being included in inclusive call packages.  They should also be slated for not having forced 0871 and 0844 numbers to move to the 09 prefix or at the very least to a low cost premium rate category with somewhat less strict controls (but still severely limiting call queuing to no more than 3 minutes) on 04 or 06.

Good to see the petition in the top 10 but a shame it doesn't slate the main villain of the piece Ofcom for its sorry and disgraceful failure to take adequate action on the matter on behalf of the UK Citizen Consumer as required of it by Section 3(i) of the Communications Act 2003.
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Reply #128 - Feb 19th, 2007 at 12:38am
 
Now at 13,754.  Another 126 signatures in just the last 4 hours.  Some way to go though to overtake "recognise that music and dance should not be restricted by burdensome licensing conditions" with 15,425 signatures in Position 8.

Save the Royal Surrey Hospital in Guildford on 18,101 is doing remarkably well but I can only imagine that both local Lib Dem and Conservative politicians may be doorknocking and/or local newspapers have publised the URL for a petition benefiting such a geographically limited area to be doing so well.  Of course I suppose there is probably also mention of the petition in newsletters aimed at doctors, nurses and other healthworkers in the NHS.
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Reply #129 - Feb 20th, 2007 at 10:34am
 
"Now at 13,754.  Another 126 signatures in just the last 4 hours.  Some way to go though to overtake "recognise that music and dance should not be restricted by burdensome licensing conditions" with 15,425 signatures in Position 8. "

Well it's gone past 15 000 today - from 6 000 a week ago.
Should be getting some recognition soon??
Let's keep at it.
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Reply #130 - Feb 21st, 2007 at 1:45pm
 
Although now 7th (helped by the road pricing petition moving off the list) the rate of signatures has decreased recently. It is now less than the Music and Dance petition above it so has stopped catching it up. Also the petition on photography in public places is coming up fast from behind.

Any ideas how we can give it a further boost? Where can it be advertised more?
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Re: SayNoTo0870.com E-Petition
Reply #131 - Feb 21st, 2007 at 1:57pm
 
Keith wrote on Feb 21st, 2007 at 1:45pm:
Although now 7th (helped by the road pricing petition moving off the list) the rate of signatures has decreased recently. It is now less than the Music and Dance petition above it so has stopped catching it up. Also the petition on photography in public places is coming up fast from behind.

Any ideas how we can give it a further boost? Where can it be advertised more?


I think the point is that although pretty remarkably less than one in one hundred of the people who bothered to sign the anti road tolls petition bothered to sign any other petition on the 10 Downing Street website (which I do find very hard indeed to believe if all the signatures are genuine and most people signing dirctly visited the Downing Street petitions website) at least those signing the road toll petition were people who hated being ripped off by a  further hidden government stealth tax.  Therefore those 1 in 100 anti road tolls signatories who did bother to look round the other petitions on the site were people particularly likely to object to being ripped off over 084/7 stealth premium rate call charges.

Now that many people visiting the site just want to save the Red Arrows, save the Royal Surrey County Hospital (in both cases meaning spending more money by the government) or have less burdensome regulations for music and dance then not as many of them are going to be those who object to hidden ripoff charges.  Also the total number of people visiting the site and signing any petition is now going to be way, way down.

Clearly getting Radio 4 You & Yours or other consumer radio and tv programs to cover the success of this petition would be likely to add a whole load more signatures to it.
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Reply #132 - Feb 21st, 2007 at 2:46pm
 
Following the report of BBC Breakfast on Saturday, we have broken the record for number of visitors to the forums. Currently there are 93 guests online, so someone must be looking.

Perhaps Daniel can send an email to every registered member. We are approaching 10,000 registered members on the forums. It would be good if Martin Lewis can mention this in one of his emails as well.
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Reply #133 - Feb 21st, 2007 at 2:58pm
 
Now we have 144 guests.
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