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PETITION to No. 10 - Prevent doctors using 0844 (Read 247,407 times)
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Reply #165 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 3:29pm
 
The cynic that I am, surley all this is typical Labour spin in action, taking the headlines off the more serious stuff that is going on in this wretched government. Will this (50 MPH propsal) ever get off the ground? Probably not, as the little darlings are taking 12 weeks off in the summer, (probably to try and spend some of their expenses before they get caught out), so what I am saying is, is there enough time for the reviews, consultations, and passing it through both houses of parliamnet before the next general election? Labour are very clever at making the headlines that they want. On another note I see Hazel Blears 'did a Bob Quick' and the press saw the information about reforming the expenses before dear Gordon announced it in the Mother of Parliaments. i.e. You Tube. Roll Eyes
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Reply #166 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 3:49pm
 
sherbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2009 at 3:29pm:
The cynic that I am, surley all this is typical Labour spin in action, taking the headlines off the more serious stuff that is going on in this wretched government. Will this (50 MPH propsal) ever get off the ground? Probably not, as the little darlings are taking 12 weeks off in the summer, (probably to try and spend some of their expenses before they get caught out), so what I am saying is, is there enough time for the reviews, consultations, and passing it through both houses of parliamnet before the next general election? Labour are very clever at making the headlines that they want. On another note I see Hazel Blears 'did a Bob Quick' and the press saw the information about reforming the expenses before dear Gordon announced it in the Mother of Parliaments. i.e. You Tube. Roll Eyes


I personally believe the vast majority of motorists are against this proposal (and the even worse one for 20mph in all residential areas) but Labour has a lot more supporters who don't drive (due to city location and income) than the Tories and this nonsense sounds good with those people who in the main don't understand the issues in the way a driver who has experience of these speeds do.

Labour is obsessively anti car due to its links with personal liberty and the more it can control the car and try to make using one such a horrid experience (as you are a potential criminal the minute you drive away) the better it likes it.  There are a few control freak nutters in the Police and local councils, not to mention the real nutters at Brake and Roadpeace, and they have Labour's ear while the motorist and the Association of British Drivers does not.  The loonies in the camera partnerships known that the Tories with lots of car drivers in rural areas among their voters will never agree to this nonsense when they get in to power and so are desperate to push it through now as they know that rescinding this stuff is a lot harder once it has happened.

Cameron is pretty weak on all this with his tory toff Notting Hill bicycling nonsense (while followed by security men in cars) but the majority of real Conservatives oppose the constant war on the motorist.  Needless to say namby pamby Clegg probably supports all of this stuff.  Charles Kennedy might have been more sensible.
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Re: PETITION to No. 10 - Prevent doctors using 084
Reply #167 - Apr 29th, 2009 at 5:17pm
 
Number of signatures has now reached over
17000.


This petition has been adding votes at a rate of 1500 per week since the Dept of Health Consultation on banning 084 numbers closed at the end of March.
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Re: PETITION to No. 10 - Prevent doctors using 084
Reply #168 - Apr 29th, 2009 at 5:36pm
 
loddon wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 5:17pm:
This petition has been adding votes at a rate of 1500 per week since the Dept of Health Consultation on banning 084 numbers closed at the end of March.


But remains unchanged in ranking order postion No.11 (in terms of total number of signatures) as other petitions have also been adding signatures at a broadly similar rate of increase.
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Reply #169 - Apr 29th, 2009 at 6:04pm
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 5:36pm:
But remains unchanged in ranking order postion No.11 .


And no mean achievement in the time!    It is hardly surprising that a petition calling for the PM to resign should rocket to the number one position from a standing start in about a week, as it has.

Ours is currently the second largest open petition in the Health category and looks like it will overtake into the top position very soon, see :----

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/list/open?cat=557

And don't forget our earlier petition on this subject which sits at number 3 in the all time list of closed petitions in the Health category, see :----

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/list/closed?cat=557

There is undoubtedly significant public concern in this topic and it is relatively high up for such an 'anoracky' type of issue, don't you think?
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Reply #170 - Apr 29th, 2009 at 6:38pm
 
OK all very fair points loddon and I never decried the petition but just noted that other petitions in the top 50 were also adding signatures at a high rate so we had not moved up the league table.

By the way does anyone know who Guy Mayhew is as he never seems to have posted on here.  Unless that is he uses a pseudonym. Undecided

I guess he can't be the son of former Tory Attorney General and MP Sir Patrick Mayhew as his sons are Barnabas, Henry, Tristran and Jerome.   See www.independent.co.uk/news/election-97-the-best-education-money-can-buy-for-cabi...
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Reply #171 - Apr 29th, 2009 at 7:58pm
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 6:38pm:
By the way does anyone know who Guy Mayhew is as he never seems to have posted on here.  Unless that is he uses a pseudonym.


He is the commendable 16 year old who started his petition after his mother was charged £11 to call her 0844 doctor, trying and failing to get an appointment.    All reported in the local Kent press.

Guy looks after his village website, Swalecliffe in Kent, and very good it looks too.

After being told about this Forum he joined using his usual name I think.    He has posted but I cannot find any of his posts at the moment.
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Reply #172 - May 3rd, 2009 at 7:59am
 
This petition has now reached the number one position in the Health category.

No 1 out of 692 current petitions on Health related matters.!!! :----


http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/list/open?cat=557

It is ahead of many petitions concerned with really important health and ethical matters.   Many concern really serious medical conditions, the need for public enquiries into medical incidents (such as baby P), medical disorders, medical services etc  etc.   and yet this petition about telephone numbers has gathered the most signatures.   Isn't it about time that the Government took notice and took action instead of wasting time, using delaying tactics like holding unending consultations and continually looking for any excuse no matter how implausible for avoiding making a decision and taking action?

The current DH Consultation on 084 numbers has now gone open ended with no publication date for the consultation response (report).    This is a shameful disgrace and the DH should be censured for such apalling incompetence and lack of professionalism.
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Reply #173 - May 7th, 2009 at 4:20pm
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Apr 29th, 2009 at 6:38pm:
By the way does anyone know who Guy Mayhew is as he never seems to have posted on here.  Unless that is he uses a pseudonym. Undecided


His username is mayhew123 and you can see his posts here :---

http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1185566187/135
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Reply #174 - May 15th, 2009 at 9:28pm
 
Hi NGMsGhost,

It is the Guy Mayhew you have been seeking, I apologise for not making my position on the forum blatent, as well as working for local consortium I also have tonnes of college work to do, but I do keep an keen eye on the petition and what's going on. Which brings me to my main point 20,000 signitures!!!!!, I honestly am so thrilled to see that the sayno website has followed through on extending the link to the petition and the response just keeps growing.

Again I would just like to say thank you so much to everyone following the campaign and I cannot wait to see the response from the PM (hopefully not an automated robot) once the petition deadline is reached.


Thanks Again,

Guy
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Reply #175 - May 23rd, 2009 at 12:41am
 
The e-petition is currently in fifth place, ranked by number of signatures of which there are now over 22,000 !!
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Reply #176 - May 24th, 2009 at 11:07pm
 
mayhew132 wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 9:28pm:
Again I would just like to say thank you so much to everyone following the campaign and I cannot wait to see the response from the PM (hopefully not an automated robot) once the petition deadline is reached.


Hi Guy,

Its good to hear from you and to know that you are following the coverage of the growth of your petition here on the forum.

As the petition still has six months to go and all the other petitions above it in the top five finish before it does the Department of Health, NHS Direct etc must be rather worried that it will eventually become the number 1 petition on the Petitions website.  You would think this might possibly give them the hint that it is time to bring in 03 numbers instead of the 084 numbers but I expect they will just continue to cynically stone wall.

It seems ironic that the media has devoted so much attention to what MPs have spent their expense allowances on (even though all of them are within the total expenses limit allowed and other MPs have spent the same amount on things which cannot be criticised in the same way) but don't seem to get at all worried about the continuing fleecing of the entire general public with the £1 billion per year 084/7 phone calls ripoff........... Shocked Angry Cry
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Reply #177 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:34pm
 

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Reply #178 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 10:03am
 
My 1st post and just wanted to say I've signed the petition. Believe it or not, it's cheaper for my family to call our friends in Chicago (not on skype, just a straight telephone call) than it is to call my local doctor who is 2 streets away on an 0844 number.
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Reply #179 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 10:09am
 
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