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Re: Setting up an 08 dial through
Reply #15 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 8:24pm
 
My quote
This will allow me to dial europe for 0.2p per min (example only)

Note....... I said example only. This was purely for figurative speech only.



"An 01xxx number is even more in the sender's interest, but if you can't find this, then use an 0845 or 0870 number. "
For me to get an 01 etc number would require payment for the service from me. They need me to have the fax. Their work depends on it. Why should I pay?
I tried voipfone who use an 0870, after all, it's cheaper for the sender.
A test fax was sent at 1420 on Sunday. It hit my mail at 1355 on tuesday. I consider that to be crap!

I signed to Faxtastic, who use 0871.
Within 10 mins of signing up a test fax was sent. I was able to view it 2 mins later, including log in time.
And the winner is.............?


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Reply #16 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 8:40pm
 
a very nice man wrote on Aug 29th, 2007 at 8:24pm:
For me to get an 01 etc number would require payment for the service from me. They need me to have the fax. Their work depends on it. Why should I pay?
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Never mind a callthrough service; think about setting up a call centre

People want to speak to your staff, their finances might depend on it, so why shouldn't they call your lovely new 0871 numbers?
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Reply #17 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 9:17pm
 
From various postings in the past, you will have read that I have done virtually everything to reduce the cost to my customers.

I have an 0800 number that diverts to my land or mobile at my expense.
I offer the land and mobile numbers for those on inclusive packages.
I accept email & text communication, calling back at my expense if necessary.
But short of setting up a fax to email service of my own, again at my expense, there appears to be no sensible alternative to getting the faxes. Especially if the distance between 2 known points in a 4 hour period could be 1500 miles.
I can work without their info.
They can't function properly without giving it to me. Due to some British Standard crap that only slows business down. Probably ISO9002 or similar.
I don't have a reason to pay £30 + per year for a service i don't need.
We are agreed generally throughout the forums that there can be a justified use of a number. I fully believe my use is justified.
Was there something I missed?
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Reply #18 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 9:34pm
 
Irrelevent.
You obviously play with Asterix for fun.
The figures quoted were just for mathematical purposes only.
At the moment I'm on the 20mb service from Virgin (and about bl**dy time Richard!) so I assume more calls could be carried. But obviously that would depend on the upload speed.
The bigger companies must just work with the numbers, and have such a high throughput, that even if it was only 0.3p per min (maintaining example) it works for them. Small profit, quick turnover.

Perhaps it's a bit out of my league for a while. Heck, the only Asterix I knew of before this site used to drink a funny liquid to change his behaviour, and hang around with a semi naked man with man boobs!

Thanks for your input.
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Reply #19 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 9:57pm
 
a very nice man wrote on Aug 29th, 2007 at 9:34pm:
Irrelevent.
You obviously play with Asterix for fun.

Wel, I did for a bit, until the box I was using died.  But it was an old Tiny box, so no wonder...  I did, however, get a feel for what it can do.  I really must set it up again, so I can get all my phones working again...

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The figures quoted were just for mathematical purposes only.
At the moment I'm on the 20mb service from Virgin (and about bl**dy time Richard!) so I assume more calls could be carried. But obviously that would depend on the upload speed.
The bigger companies must just work with the numbers, and have such a high throughput, that even if it was only 0.3p per min (maintaining example) it works for them. Small profit, quick turnover.
Well all my figures were back-of-an-envelope type workings; but they should be in the ballpark, so you've got some idea on practicality.

For your own, personal, use, it's entirely practical.  I woudn't try and set up a business around it, though, unless you have a lot of knowledge in the market you'd be operating.

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Reply #20 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 9:59pm
 
a very nice man, you could try switchnumbers.co.uk, they offer fax to email on a very big range of number types.
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Reply #21 - Aug 29th, 2007 at 10:52pm
 
This was a site I had looked at, Getagrip, and passed over.
However, they include the one thing that I was trying to avoid, a personal cost.
The most basic setup, using an 01 etc number has the following table.
This didn't quite copy / paste properly.
Setup
Charge      £0.00      £50.00      £99.00      P.O.A.
Annual
Charge      £25.00      £25.00      £50.00      P.O.A.
                                      
Peak (min)      2.00p      2.00p      2.00p      2.00p
Off Peak (min)       2.00p      2.00p      2.00p      2.00p
Wkend (min)           2.00p      2.00p      2.00p      2.00p

Peak (call)               0.00p      0.00p      0.00p      0.00p
Off Peak (call)      0.00p      0.00p      0.00p      0.00p
Wkend (call)             0.00p      0.00p      0.00p      0.00p

As you can see, it will cost me at least £25 before I can even start.

If however, I chose an 0904 number, it would cost them £1.50 per min, but I'd get £1.15 for my trouble.
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Reply #22 - Nov 17th, 2007 at 7:39am
 
You asked about fax to email.  I was abroad and needed to see a letter that had arrived at home.  No scanner/email was available and no fax where I was staying. 

Went to http://control.inweb.co.uk/ and got an 0844 number free.  A fax to their 0844 numbers costs the sender 5 p per minute.  Of course they sell other numbers incluing 0870 and 07 numbers.  But it worked  for me - 5 minutes after registering I had the document in an email.  It took 1:05 minutes to send so I probably got billed 2 minutes = 10p. 

This is not an endorsement - I have not checked for overcharges etc but it appears to have solved my needs at the time.

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