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Aug 30th, 2007 at 11:04pm
 
Windsor Telecom give the following information on the 03 range of numbers.

Extract from:    http://www.windsor-telecom.co.uk/03-numbers-information.php

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Information on 03 UK Wide Numbers
OFCOM, the UK Telecommunications regulator, has created the new 03 number range to improve trust and confidence in UK phone numbers. 03 numbers will be used by public service organisations, charities and companies that want a national presence, but who do not wish to make an additional charge to consumers for contacting them.

The 03 phone numbers will formally be known as ’UK-wide’ numbers and are being introduced as an alternative to chargeable 08 phone numbers such as 0845, 0870 and 0871 Numbers. Consumers will have a clear understanding of the price that they are paying for a call to an 03 number, as the cost of calling will be the same as calls to geographic numbers (normal landlines starting 01 or 02).

Telecoms operators will be required to offer the same discount schemes that currently apply to geographic numbers. All Operators have the flexibility to adjust their bundled and all-inclusive prices for calls to 01, 02 and 03 numbers in competition with each other. OFCOM has also requested that calls to 03 numbers from mobiles and payphones are treated in the same way as calls to normal landline numbers.

A main advantage of 03 numbers over geographic numbers is that enhanced services can be provided such as call statistics, advanced call plans and disaster recovery solutions. 03 numbers can also be given out as the number that identifies your call (CLI) to the number that you have dialled (this product is called ‘presentation number’ and can be supplied by your outbound call supplier).

No Revenue Sharing on 03 Numbers
Revenue sharing will not be permitted on 03 numbers. Currently many consumers are unhappy that some organisations who use 0845, 0870 and 0871 numbers receive a share of what the consumer pays to make a call. 03 numbers are therefore likely to be perceived as being more ethical and customer friendly.

The Different 03 Number Ranges
0300 Numbers and 0303 Numbers

The 030 range has been specially designated by Ofcom for use by public bodies and non for profit organisations. The range includes 0300 numbers and 0303 numbers. Ofcom has provided detailed information on who is eligible for 030 numbers and you’re able to visit our 030 Numbers Eligibility page for further information.


0330 Numbers and 0333 Numbers

The 033 range does not carry eligibly criteria and therefore are open to any business or organisation who wishes to use them. The range includes 0330 numbers and 0333 numbers and offers a wide range of unique and exiting benefits to UK business. Windsor Telecom has some of the most memorable 03 numbers available, such as 0330 900 0000 and 0333 666 6000.


03 Migration Numbers

This range is available to any business who already posses 08 non geographic numbers and wish to obtain their equivalent 03 migration number. These may include 0845 numbers, 0844 numbers and 0871 or 0870 national rate numbers. For example, someone with 0845 130 8080 can apply for 0345 130 8080 and so on. Learn more on our 03 migration numbers page.


What Will Happen To Existing 08 Number Ranges?
All of the existing 08 number ranges will remain. However, the cost of calling certain ranges, such as 0870, is likely to reduce. Companies and organisations that use 084x and 087x numbers will be given the opportunity to acquire the equivalent 03 migration number if this is more beneficial to them. Many services requiring revenue outpayments are likely to stay on the 08 ranges, with new numbers allocated as required by demand.      

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Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 7:19am
 
Notice they are still stating:-

03 Migration Numbers

This range is available to any business who already posses 08 non geographic numbers and wish to obtain their equivalent 03 migration number. These may include 0845 numbers, 0844 numbers and 0871 or 0870 national rate numbers. For example, someone with 0845 130 8080 can apply for 0345 130 8080 and so on. Learn more on our 03 migration numbers page.
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Reply #2 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 7:47am
 
kk wrote on Aug 30th, 2007 at 11:04pm:
OFCOM, the UK Telecommunications regulator, has created the new 03 number range to improve trust and confidence in UK phone numbers. 03 numbers will be used by public service organisations, charities and companies that want a national presence, but who do not wish to make an additional charge to consumers for contacting them.

Revenue sharing will not be permitted on 03 numbers. ]Currently many consumers are unhappy that some organisations who use 0845, 0870 and 0871 numbers receive a share of what the consumer pays to make a call. 03 numbers are therefore likely to be perceived as being more ethical and customer friendly.


Did you ever think you might hear this from the lips of Windsor Telecom.

It virtually amounts to a total admission that everything they have been doing over the last few years has involved scamming the great british public. Shocked Angry Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #3 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 12:10pm
 
I was wondering if 0345 would make an appearance...

So all the old 0345 numbers that went to 08457 can now go back... nearly...

Some more interesting info on the A&A 03 page including some details on the 055 number range that I didn't know. (In fact, I don't think I've ever seen an 055 number in use!)

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Reply #4 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 4:03pm
 
I've not seen an 055 number but I have an 056 number - it's a BT Broadband Talk VoIP number
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Reply #5 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 5:16pm
 
I'm pretty impressed as its near enough accurate where as normally I'd expect a CP to downplay 03x and try and get their customers on alternative numbers like 0844, 0845 and 0871.
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Reply #6 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 6:16pm
 
Does anyone know.
Are all the 03 numbers fully accessable from all overseas countries at normal  geo rates from that country. What about from local mobiles from overseas?

Will the 03 range have the same capabilities as  with 0870/1 and 0845 numbers where they can be switched around the country to diff call centres ?

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Reply #7 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 6:16pm
 
Thanks for the link “irrelevent” to the Andrews and Arnold site.

Plenty of useful insight on the attitude to the new 03 range.   Looks like 28th August 2007 was “03" day.

http://www.aa.gg/aa/voip/03.html

More deceptions are being laid to rest.  Quoting from the AA site:

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UK wide numbering
0845 and 0870 numbers
Two number types (0845 local and 0870 national) have caused concern. The concept was simple - 0845 is local rate and 0870 is national rate. A nice idea as alternatives to real local and national numbers without having a specific area of the country.

Unfortunately the prices were set based on the undiscounted standard BT rate for calling a local or national number. Over the years prices for calling landline numbers have dropped dramatically and nobody pays BT standard rates. This makes 0870 expensive to call and many times the actual cost of a national call to a landline number. Even 0845 are expensive compared to local calls.

To add to the complication 0845 and 0870 numbers are often not included in call packages and free call allowances. The fact that these numbers cost more means the telcos get more, and so they have become in effect a low cost premium rate service.

There are even campaigns and web sites trying to "say no to 0870" which all helps to reduce public acceptance of such numbers.
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Reply #8 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 6:45pm
 
alan99 wrote on Aug 31st, 2007 at 6:16pm:
Does anyone know.
Are all the 03 numbers fully accessable from all overseas countries at normal  geo rates from that country. What about from local mobiles from overseas?
This is entirely upto the overseas operator (whether landline or mobile) but I assume that because no revenue sharing will take place on this number range then an overseas operator is most likely going to treat it as an ordinary 01 or 02 number.  Ofcom have no remit over any operator outside the UK so cannot force them to only charge their normal price for calling a UK 01/02 number.

However, with any new number range it can take a while (not sure of usual time but I've heard it can take more than 6months sometimes depending on operator) for 03x to be dialled from overseas.

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Will the 03 range have the same capabilities as  with 0870/1 and 0845 numbes where they can be switched around the country to diff call centres ?
Yes, all features available on 0844, 0845, 0870 and 0871 will be available on 03x as it uses similar methods to handle calls.

The main difference between 03x and 084x/087x is that in most cases, the features (well basic features) used by companies/gov depts were free because it was paid for by anyone ringing an 084x/087x whereas any company/gov dept using an 03x will have to pay for such features and it's likely that they'll also have to pay for incoming calls as well.
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Reply #9 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 7:08pm
 
Ok thanks bb.
So it seems Uk companies may still need to quote an 01/02 number alongside an 03 for overseas callers. Bet some wont therefore possibly costing callers from overseas more.

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Reply #10 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 8:27pm
 
http://ipcommunications.tmcnet.com/news/2007/07/20/305045.htm

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Windsor chief executive Neil Sherring was quoted in the report as saying, “03 numbers will be the ‘angel’ of numbers. Their introduction will enable public bodies and private companies to restore public confidence in calling them and create a clear understanding of call charges. As there will be no revenue sharing on 03 numbers, they are likely to be perceived as being more ethical and customer friendly.”

Unlike 0845 numbers where callers pay local rates, or 0870 numbers where callers pay a national rate, 03 numbers will be completely transparent, costing no more than a standard landline phone call. They will replace the U.K.’s popular 0845 numbers.
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Reply #11 - Sep 1st, 2007 at 4:01pm
 
bbb_uk wrote on Aug 31st, 2007 at 6:45pm:
Ofcom have no remit over any operator outside the UK so cannot force them to only charge their normal price for calling a UK 01/02 number.
 


Do they have any remit over any operator IN the UK ?  Grin Grin

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Reply #12 - Sep 2nd, 2007 at 8:17pm
 
Well I signed up for an 03 number (voip, from A&A) to try it it out.
I Won't be giving it out for some time I think..:

Whilst it dials from BT line fine, and rings here...

1615 (Tiscali) gives NU
18866 (call18866.co.uk) tells me, correctly, 0p/min but then rings engaged
voipcheap.com tells me to check the number I have dialed.
O2 mobile says it's an invalid number.
020 0222 0700 and 020 0222 0900 both say "that number cannot be dialed from this account."

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Reply #13 - Sep 2nd, 2007 at 9:44pm
 
irrelevant wrote on Sep 2nd, 2007 at 8:17pm:
020 0222 0700 and 020 0222 0900 both say "that number cannot be dialed from this account."


I thought these numbers were only freephone dial through numbers. 03 isn't a freephone number so is presumably not dialable through those numbers.
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Reply #14 - Sep 2nd, 2007 at 9:49pm
 
jgxenite wrote on Sep 2nd, 2007 at 9:44pm:
irrelevant wrote on Sep 2nd, 2007 at 8:17pm:
020 0222 0700 and 020 0222 0900 both say "that number cannot be dialed from this account."
I thought these numbers were only freephone dial through numbers. 03 isn't a freephone number so is presumably not dialable through those numbers.


Ah, whoops.  I was just going though my list of ways to dial numbers Smiley  Hadn't twigged that they were freephone only, as I don't actually have to use them very often..
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