SilentCallsVictim wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 3:31pm:

Spot-on. Ofcom's flawed policy is now in tatters. You cannot spin engineering and physics!

They now need to reconsult on 0870 and 070, because they didn't do it right last time!

Ofcom back to school; do your homework and please try harder!

DonQuixote wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 4:53pm:

If Ofcom were regulating the railways, the result would be fatal, as has been the case since privatisation. Instead, we have a situation where its incompetence plays into the hands of the telcos.

What about other industries Ofcom regulates? Transmission of television and radio services. Should we prepare ourselves for caos as the analogue services are replaced by all-digital ones?

Oh dear oh dear oh dear,

Now we have newbies here who evidently think they know all about these issues after making a few posts! So I am completely wrong am I?

I suggest you look again at what you have actually posted. Most of what you have posted agrees with what I stated. I suggest as a newbie that you orient yourself rather more politely and less arrogantly, otherwise you will just make yourself look rather foolish.

It seems in reality that all you are disputing in my post is whether Ofcom collectively have technical competence. I did not claim that their senior staff listened to the technical advice which they received. I stated that they have collective technical competence. That is quite different.

I also repeat that this is clearly yet another example of Ofcoms' smoke and mirrors! The reasons they claim they have made these "u" turns are not what their real agenda is about. Some are easily deceived it seems! Those of us who know Ofcom well and the way they manipulate these things can see the normal profile of their deceit and lies here. They increasingly remind me of internet mobile telephone distributors!

dorf wrote on Dec 17^th, 2007 at 11:09pm:

Yes.

By the way, what make you think being a "supreme member" of this forum gives you any qualification in Telecom's regulation? I think it just means you have made over 500 posts. Are you really seriously suggesting that anyone with less than 50 posts can't know more than you about this business? Come-on, get real!

Back vaguely on topic, the industry seems pretty happy with Ofcom at the moment.  I received this missive this morning:

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Yes I concur that this is indeed so NGMsG. We have been around long enough campaigning on these issues to know the characteristics of Oftel and Ofcom only too well!

And Yes "Newbie tilting at windmills Spanish impostor man", what are your real attributes in Telecoms, what formal technical qualifications do you have in order to be able to make such castigating statements and criticisms concerning the technical competence of others? It has nothing to do with how many posts one has made here, although that does demonstrate a certain dedication and experience in the field of campaigning against these abuses for sure. I probably have superior formal qualifications to you and also more significant specific telecommunications experience than you, to be able to make statements about these technical issues. However, I also have the attributes of modesty and humility which clearly you do not, so I do not normally boast about them. You have also implied in an earlier post here that Oftel were "technically competent" and you clearly do not understand the difference between "advise" and "advice". Yet you believe you have superior knowledge to me and can state that I am completely wrong. What arrogance!  If you had put forward a logical argument to prove that I was completely wrong and why your claim was valid, it might have been acceptable. To just make such an unsubstantiated arrogant statement is certainly not acceptable. I would not post such wild insults myself concerning any other member of this forum, and I do not expect any other members to do so, regardless of how many or how few posts they have made here.

As those of us who have been campaigning in this field for the longest are fully aware, Oftel were if anything even more incompetent and corrupt than Ofcom. It was entirely due to their failure to enforce their own original NTNP (which they had published) that all of these NGN scams commenced and were allowed to escalate to the position of abuse we have now. They failed to protect the Citizen Consumer just as Ofcom fail to protect the Citizen Consumer. They deliberately invented (with BT) the term "revenue sharing" to attempt to deceive the Citizen Consumer, and for years they then pretended that it was different from use as a Premium number, to protect illicit call queuing revenue! They deliberately prohibited revenue sharing for the terminating subscriber with 070 PNS (only temporarily) as a sop with the intended ploy that the industry could continue the scam by using dummy terminating subscribers thereafter.

The fact that you make such statements as you do seems to me to indicate that you have a vested interest in the status quo. As NGMsG seems to suspect, I also suspect that you are another "plant". They register here from time-to-time, to try to propagate the industry line. You can always see the classic profile - newbies after a few posts laying down the law as if they know everything there is to know about these abuses and the regulation of telecoms, but with an evident orientation of supporting the NGN scams in reality.

Come clean: tell us who you really are and what your formal qualifications and actual experience in Telcoms really are?

NGMsGhost wrote on Dec 18^th, 2007 at 1:40am:


I am quite sure that I never said that. You exaggerate.