dorf wrote on Mar 12
th, 2008 at 12:33am:
Quote:You'd need to be careful about your source of data, as there are assertions almost on a par with copyright or similar; someone else setting up a wap look-up arrangement ran into a dispute several months after asking permission and getting no response at all.
It seems that this poster needs to be much more careful concerning their unsubstantiated, destructive criticisms? If you look at most of his postings, they have a similar style of bombastic destructiveness, which on any other forum would be called "flaming". Almost all of these criticisms are always unsubstantiated. To whom is the first statement addressed here? Is it the OP or the member replying to the OP? What on earth is "there are assertions almost on a par with copyright or similar" supposed to mean? Exactly what assertions are on a par with "copyright", and what is "similar" supposed to mean here? Who was it who is supposed to have set-up a WAP look-up arrangement and ran into a dispute? What was the dispute? These allegations are all totally unsubstantiated and unexplained, and thus are of no assistance to the OP. Where is the evidence of these claims and criticisms?
You tested it. Who are you anyway? What global accreditation is there in you claiming to have tested it, relative to the real world? What was "it"? What were the "useful replies to one query"? What was the query? The replies may have seemed useful to you, but would they be seen to be useful to anyone else?
Then we have
Quote:As for the potential costs, these numbers are inclusive for some people, whereas short codes are always chargeable
What is that supposed to convey to us? What on earth does it mean anyway? It is very very clear that you need to be much much more careful about what you post here, and above all you need to substantiate your criticisms and claims in an objective manner, if your statements are to have any credence at all. If Gordon Brown claims to have tested something, then we know who he is and we can base our credence on his position and status, what we know of him and his perceived competence. You, we do not know or recognize; we do not know your competence, although we can begin to come to an assessment of it on the basis of what you post here. So far that assessment does not seem to be very impressive I would suggest.
Andrew, do not be discouraged by this unwarranted and unsubstantiated criticism. Continue to develop your idea if you want to. jgexernite's idea is good. Try that to expand the approach.
To take your closing remarks first, this is a totally false accusation against me. I tried this service and it worked, and I very clearly said it had worked.
As you say, jgxenite offered useful advice. Although mine was more cryptic, it in fact says something very similar, to approach the person who controls the database. I also comment on the very same issue of the numbers used.
Where is the evidence you demand? Some is on this forum.
http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1177323217Note I wasn't proposing to carry out the work myself, but hoped that someone might. A question in my first post was a bit rhetorical, as I already knew one answer, as my second hints.
It had in fact been mentioned as a proposal on here some time earlier, by someone who did some work on it, but a search now shows me that some posts have been deleted. In addition to that, I'm not privy to communications between other parties, so although I understand something of the gist of the reasons, it isn't my place to comment further. Sorry if you think that this is still too cryptic; I didn't know this earlier.
You want more specific results from the test I tried? I entered an 0870 number for Carphone Warehouse, sent the text message, and within a few seconds received 3 replies with numbers listed in each one. How on earth can my remarks be deemed critical? Instead of perversely slagging me off for saying it was useful, did you test this at all yourself?
The portal is an Isle of Man mobile number; 07624 8xxxxx (the next digit mostly 0) are used by another company by arrangement with Manx Telecom, to provide text-based services. I assume that the OP has a temporary arrangement with this company, but that need not concern us.
Calling an Isle of Man mobile comes from some but not all networks' contract inclusive minutes; some networks publish that they are excluded, and some customer services just do not know.
Texts may differ in charging - after a discussion on another forum, and phoning a firm using a Jersey mobile number for a text service (as the Millionaire TV programme has done), I learned that Jersey mobiles can come from contract inclusive texts even though they don't from minutes; T-mobile the exception. I don't know if the same applies to IoM numbers, but I will assume that it isn't easy to find out.
All of this boring detail lies behind the OP's advice that it might consitute an international text message. Hence, for people who don't know, this would probably hint to make one single query, not several, until they know the answer.
And hence my remarks too, slightly qualifying what jgxenite said about access cost. In other words, I hope that might continue and with both number options (but renting a dedicated short-code is expensive, so maybe a shared access with a prefix in the message).
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