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Reply #30 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 10:41am

Yes, yes, yes, yes, ....... no.

Doh! Oh well, it was all going so well. Plenty of very useful stuff about BB, but not dial-up. Shame.

On the face of it, I have a no-brainer (or is that I have no brain Roll Eyes

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Phone co-op prefix with 138 for 0845 dial up is 3.9p/1p/1p for weekday/weekend/evening
Using 18185 (guess prefix is 18185) cost listed 3p/.5p/.5p

Am I missing something about fixed minimum call charge/call connection charge or something? Is there a fee to use 18185. It doesn't say that there is anywhere obvious.

I'm trying to apply the rule of "If it looks too good, it usuaully is." Undecided

again,

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #31 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 12:24pm

rbatte1.

So you have a BT Line but you place calls through the Phone Coop by using a short code 138 because you only make a few short geo calls. Is that correct?

If thats the case and you can find a 0845 dial up service you could nominate the 0845 number as your BT Best Friend and reduce the cost of calls to it by 40% Eg 1.2p peak 0.03p evenings.A 6p connection charge will apply.

18185 charge a 5p connection for calls using their 18185 access number.

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #32 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 3:34pm

Dear oldharryrocks,

Smiley

for the nod, and yes there are only a few national and a very few local calls. The 0845 number is by far the biggest use. I'm not sure I get the maths though.

A 40% saving on 3.9p (BT peak) is 60% of 3.9p=2.34p
A 40% total cost on the same 3.9p is still 1.56p

The weekend & evenig rate of 1p is easier at 0.6p or 0.4p depending quite what 40% you mean, so it is very marginal either way over 18185, however the BT site suggests I only get 10% for normal F&F with 20% for Best Friend, so that my blow that one out. Perhaps with higher price plans there is more discount available.

A very good pointer though. I will see what other combinations I can work on.

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #33 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 3:38pm

Using the 18185 prefix from a BT landline will cost you 5p + whatever the per minute charge for the number you're calling is at the time/day you're calling.

Just using BT will cost you 6p + whatever the per minute charge for the number you're calling is at the time/day you're calling.

In the case of calling 0845 numbers, the comparisons are:

0845-------
Weekday-
 Evening---
Weekend

BT --- 
6p + 2p/min. -
½p/min.--
2p/½p/min. (BT's Day/Evening prices apply weekends too)
18185-
 5p + 3p/min. -
½p/min.- -
½p/min. --
(18185 has a separate weekend price)

0870-------
Weekday--
Evening-_--
Weekend

BT --- 
6p + 6p/min. -
1½p/min._
6p/1½p/min.-
(BT's Day/Evening prices apply weekends too)
18185-
 5p + 6p/min. -
4p/min.-_--
2p/min. --
(18185 has a separate weekend price)

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #34 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 6:39pm

rbatte1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 3:34pm:

Dear oldharryrocks,

Smiley

for the nod, and yes there are only a few national and a very few local calls. The 0845 number is by far the biggest use. I'm not sure I get the maths though.

A 40% saving on 3.9p (BT peak) is 60% of 3.9p=2.34p
A 40% total cost on the same 3.9p is still 1.56p

The weekend & evenig rate of 1p is easier at 0.6p or 0.4p depending quite what 40% you mean, so it is very marginal either way over 18185, however the BT site suggests I only get 10% for normal F&F with 20% for Best Friend, so that my blow that one out. Perhaps with higher price plans there is more discount available.

A very good pointer though. I will see what other combinations I can work on.

Woops !! sorry i should have said 20% for BT best friend not 40% so this brings BT 0845 Calls down using this method to 6p connection. 1.6p Daytime and 0.04 Evenings.

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Reply #35 - Mar 20^th, 2008 at 2:46pm

Has anyone noticed that calling 0870 numbers with 18185 is cheaper through the 020/0808 access numbers than it is with the 18185 prefix?

With 020/0808 numbers it's 3p/min Mon-Fri and 1p/min at the weekend with a 4p connection charge, same as with 0845. Well, that's what it says on the website. Ringing a 0870 number via the 0808 access number says it costs 5p/min now (Thursday daytime). Undecided

With the 18185 prefix it's 6p/min Mon-Fri 6am-6pm, 4p/min Mon-Fri 6pm-6am, 2p/min weekends. Connection charge is 5p.

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #36 - Mar 20^th, 2008 at 5:55pm

Dave wrote on Mar 20^th, 2008 at 2:46pm:

Has anyone noticed that calling 0870 numbers with 18185 is cheaper through the 020/0808 access numbers than it is with the 18185 prefix?

With 020/0808 numbers it's 3p/min Mon-Fri and 1p/min at the weekend with a 4p connection charge, same as with 0845. Well, that's what it says on the website. Ringing a 0870 number via the 0808 access number says it costs 5p/min now (Thursday daytime). Undecided

With the 18185 prefix it's 6p/min Mon-Fri 6am-6pm, 4p/min Mon-Fri 6pm-6am, 2p/min weekends. Connection charge is 5p.

If you're programming an Orchid, make sure you select the 08081703703##### Carrier though (the long pause is necessary).

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #37 - Mar 22^nd, 2008 at 10:54am

Dave wrote on Mar 20^th, 2008 at 2:46pm:

Has anyone noticed that calling 0870 numbers with 18185 is cheaper through the 020/0808 access numbers than it is with the 18185 prefix?

With 020/0808 numbers it's 3p/min Mon-Fri and 1p/min at the weekend with a 4p connection charge, same as with 0845. Well, that's what it says on the website. Ringing a 0870 number via the 0808 access number says it costs 5p/min now (Thursday daytime).

That 5p/minute during the week has me baffled (as you say, the website says 3p/minute) but it's certainly 1p/minute at the weekend (I've just tested it).

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #38 - Mar 22^nd, 2008 at 12:57pm

Heinz wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2008 at 10:54am:

That 5p/minute during the week has me baffled (as you say, the website says 3p/minute) but it's certainly 1p/minute at the weekend (I've just tested it).

The website shows the 0870 price as being the same as 0845 through the 0808/020 access numbers. So that's probably where the erroneous price has come from.

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Reply #39 - Mar 23^rd, 2008 at 4:11pm

Dave wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2008 at 12:57pm:

Heinz wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2008 at 10:54am:

That 5p/minute during the week has me baffled (as you say, the website says 3p/minute) but it's certainly 1p/minute at the weekend (I've just tested it).

The website shows the 0870 price as being the same as 0845 through the 0808/020 access numbers. So that's probably where the erroneous price has come from.

I have confirmed the 1p/minute rate is correct for weekend 0870 calls (by making a test call).

However, another test call during the week confirms that weekday calls to 0870 numbers via the 0808 1 703 703 access number cost 5p per minute, not the 3p per minute shown on the www.18185.co.uk website. Hence, at 4p/minute, using the 18185 prefix is cheaper during weekday evenings.

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nutellajunkie Full Member Offline [GURU MEDITATION] Posts: 191 Alba Gender:	Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087 Reply #40 - Apr 1^st, 2008 at 1:22pm ashek1983 wrote on Mar 11^th, 2008 at 2:47pm: All good for nothing........... None doesn't work. U better try make a call and then please tell others. Thanks for understnd. I cant understand why I find this outstandingly amusing!
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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #41 - Apr 8^th, 2008 at 1:48pm

Dear all,

Just wanted to post my sincere thanks Smiley

Yes, I'm now registered with 18185, I can make calls to 0845 numbers (incl Yahoo dial-up shhhh!) and I'm even getting SMS at a penny per broadcast, i.e. send one SMS to many and pay just 1p total. I have registered my mobile so I can choose to have that as the sending number for people to reply to. Really good stuff.

Best of all, the bill seems to be much lower already. I will wait to see the full monthly cost when I get full usage going, but I'm one pleased Batman.

Smiley

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ashek1983 Junior Member Offline Posts: 92 london Gender:	Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087 Reply #42 - Apr 8^th, 2008 at 11:45pm 0845 (sat/sun/weekdays.... (fixed) 0.5 p/ It says 5 pence per min..I am doubt how u use........any way good luck.
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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #43 - Apr 9^th, 2008 at 3:53am

rbatte1 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2008 at 1:48pm:

Yes, I'm now registered with 18185, I can make calls to 0845 numbers (incl Yahoo dial-up shhhh!) and I'm even getting SMS at a penny per broadcast, i.e. send one SMS to many and pay just 1p total.

I think your find its 1p for each destination you send a text to, not 1p a broadcast. Have you checked your online bill ?
http://www.18185.co.uk/sms.php

Watch out for overcharging. Wink

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=759049

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Re: Does any 1 know the cheap way to call 0845/087
Reply #44 - Apr 9^th, 2008 at 9:46am

ashek1983 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2008 at 11:45pm:

0845 (sat/sun/weekdays....
(fixed)
0.5
p/

It says 5 pence per min..I am doubt how u use........any way good luck.

I think you are reading that incorrectly. 18185 does not have a 5p per minute rate for calling 0845 numbers:

Since 1/8/07, price comparisons between BT and 18185 have been:

0845------------
Weekday-
 Evening---
Weekend

BT -------- 
6p + 2p/min. -
½p/min.--
2p/½p/min. (BT's Day/Evening prices apply weekends too)
18185------ 
5p + 3p/min. -
½p/min.- -
½p/min.

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