many thanks for helping me..I've got to out now so will do some research later on the numbers. Cheers, much appreciated.

To repeat: ISDN is still the best option for the very specialist needs of radio station remote interviews and Voiceover sessions. Please don't dismiss us by saying that you have the answer and we (the BBC, 1000 radio stations and 1000 voiceover studios) are just being silly and stuck in the mud. If you are truly interested the nearest IP can get to our specialist needs of a LIVE undelayed rock solid connection between audio codecs is via Source Connect or audiotx. But they are not there yet. When they are we will all joyfully move away from ISDN. If we followed your advice now we'd be out of a job, and you might notice a few live sports reports and interviews and radio discussions with Professor X in New York - would suddenly disappear.

And so, since I make enough from ISDN to cover the costs of ISDN..I might as well get my telephony needs from it at the same time, no?

Thanks again for your help.

ISDN is from the dark ages, but it is a reliable safe option for steady data stream requirements.

It is about time other mediums were found, and more so as ISDN is being made obsolete.

well, how many ways do we have to say this before you accept that possibly - on this one small area - you maybe under-informed?

ISDN is still used for live broadcast-quality duplex voice because nothing else works as well. No, it really doesn't. It would be nice if it did, but it doesn't, not yet.  Nobody is holding up the transfer due to laziness or slackness or a fit of pique!

When there's an alternative that works...we will all switch. If BT forces us all off ISDN before a replacement is ready then we are all stuffed.

Sheesh..we - the VO's - have been talking about this dilemma obsessively for three years now. Just accept that we have explored what's out there eh! This dark talk of ISDN being ready for the chop only except that we are slow to change, and me being an 0870 salesman..just makes you look a bit um paranoid. Again, I thank you for your help and respectfully ask for more of it if you have any other ideas for someone who has an ISDN telephony system for a very good reason - and wanting to get entrepreneurial by starting up enterprises whilst keeping costs down.

Many thanks

yes, yes of course you are right

how silly of us to cling to our purist ways, just because they work. Roll on the revolution where my practical needs in real life are determined by some ill informed dolt on an internet discussion board.

I have no idea what your beef is with the BBC - I am sure that your story is right in every particular but I doubt very much that they are single-handedly stopping some automagical ISDN solution emerging.  I can assure you that for me and the other voiceovers ISDN is the best solution in the marketplace right now.

And I'm more than a little peeved discussing this issue with someone who cannot learn anything from anyone else, it suggests that maybe your advice on any subject may not be all that good. Also, it is not the subject of this thread.

Sorry to be frank, you are obviously a well established member of this forum but you are making a bit of an ass of yourself by not accepting that anyone else might know anything about telephone lines in the UK.

So I'll try one more time:

I have an ISDN phone system...which does mean I can cheaply get lots of new 0208 numbers for my new businesses (MSN's I think they are called)..but I have to move house=office at least twice in the next few years..I'm scoping out what my best options are in non-geo and any more advice is gratefully received.

yesbut wrote on Mar 31^st, 2008 at 6:30pm:


How about

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As to the commetary quality issue I'm sorry if I have upset you but surely a high quality business broadband connection on a very low contention ratio must be able to deliver a service as good as a measly old 64k ISDN line?

I don't wish to sound unfriendly but the whole courts service has still yet to adopt email purely because nobody forces them to get their fingers out and resolve the issue.  The BBC also only uses 084/7 numbers because its damn hard to ever get a sensible answer about who is responsible for sanctioning this outrage.

yesbut wrote on Mar 31^st, 2008 at 7:00pm:


Well it won't be me that does that will it?

It will be BT and their 21st Century Network Plans.  Surely ISDN won't be available once BT's 21st CN comes along will it?

interesting...thanks for filling us in on the details

Yes the BT migration from Home/Business Highway to ISDN2e was a pathetic, shameful, nigh-on criminally mismanaged shambles. The Voiceover community was baffled by the sheer scale of their incompetence on this issue!

(oh and thanks again for those who offered help on PM, am abroad at the moment but will be in touch when I get back - very grateful for kind offer)

yesbut wrote on Apr 4^th, 2008 at 3:38pm:


Oh surely they cannot have been surprised bearing in mind that this is BT we are talking about here.