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Re: New London codes?
Reply #15 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:46am
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:00am:
As the convention that National Dialling Numbers are not disclosed to end users is only a gentleman's agreement between fellow telecoms scammers

If, as earlier postings suggest, this is a condition of adoption in the National Telephone Numbering Scheme, then I believe I am right in saying that it does bear on Telcos, who are obliged to comply with the Scheme under the terms of General Conditions.

There may be a question of whether a Telco acting in good faith could be decieved by a user who fails to advise that an adopted number will be used publicly, because here we come back to the problem of Ofcom only having powers of general regulatory control over telecomms providers, not users.

As others are already rustling pages of regulation and this is not an area of expertise, I will simply drop in this thought for now.

N.B. Saynoto0870.com is not, so far as I am aware, under any obligation to comply with the provisions of the National Telephone Numbering Scheme. I am not a lawyer.
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Re: New London codes?
Reply #16 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 1:13am
 
SilentCallsVictim wrote on Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:46am:
N.B. Saynoto0870.com is not, so far as I am aware, under any obligation to comply with the provisions of the National Telephone Numbering Scheme. I am not a lawyer.


No it is not bound by it and nor are any of this site's individual members.  Anyhow as Ofcom/Oftel has so frequently disregarded the principles of its own National Telephone Number Plan in allocating numbers or enabling covert revenue sharing (as dorf has always been so keen to remind us)  why on earth should we worry about a few minor breaches.  Don't forget that Ofcom can't even manage to get telcos to abide by its own General Conditions regarding phone bills in terms of properly describing various call types to customers (eg misusing using the terms, Lo-Call, Local Rate and National Rate for higher cost NTS numbers).

Surely having phone numbers that can be dialled but that are meant to be kept secret is a pretty nonsensical idea in the first place.  It only exists because of the very absurdity of people trying to charge extra for what should only be normal standard priced phone calls. Shocked Angry Smiley
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Re: New London codes?
Reply #17 - Dec 7th, 2008 at 1:20pm
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Dec 6th, 2008 at 5:32pm:
jgxenite wrote on Dec 6th, 2008 at 4:40pm:
They are generally used for public calling (so not sure why that particular organisation is using one) but as the termination number for non-geographic ranges.


Sorry to be pedantic but you seem to have missed out the crucial world not in the above sentence.



And you seem to be encompassing the Globe  Grin

Just a joke, don't get upset  Wink
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Re: New London codes?
Reply #18 - Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:09pm
 
Pardon the delay, I must change the password here so I can remember it and login elsewhere...

The 02 0200 number was in a spiritual magazine in a huge ad. I initially thought it must be from abroad but no, it was a real number as I have the codebook. Then I googled and found Avenue House, a Barnet Borough agency for volunteers, advertise it on their website. Very odd.

"resilience/dual parenting"

Please translate!
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Re: New London codes?
Reply #19 - Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:59pm
 
David_H wrote on Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:09pm:
"resilience/dual parenting"

Please translate!


I'm sure you should meet up with our forum member Tanllan as it sounds like you and he may have similar career backgrounds?
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Re: New London codes?
Reply #20 - Dec 14th, 2008 at 12:28am
 
I think that it may be something of a paranoid myth that these numbers are supposed to be secret and used only as targets for 0845 and other non-geographic numbers, though I note the old Oftel reference that NGM found.

I've occasionally noticed London numbers in 020 1~ and 020 0~ for 3 or 4 years, and indeed I had one of the latter myself briefly in summer 2005, which together with that 0200 callthrough to freephone numbers could be called quite normally from a BT landline and from 3 different mobile networks I tried.
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Re: New London codes?
Reply #21 - Dec 14th, 2008 at 1:43pm
 
Well, 0116 005 numbers are still not diallable from a BT landline - I've just tried!
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