Dave wrote on Dec 20^th, 2008 at 6:41pm:


I used OpenOffice when I first got the computer,(supplied,probably because it was free), did not know any different, then was given, (FREE NGMsG) A copy of Word, have used it ever since and am happy with it.

derrick wrote on Dec 20^th, 2008 at 6:54pm:


Is that why it is a copy of Word 2000.  I wonder if the boys at www.fast.org.uk would be ok with the source of your current copy of Word?

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I have never known one of your calls to me to not last long.

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Are you sure.  I seem to remember that you were in fact subjected to a very difficult and lengthy cross examination.

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I would fully expect you to shop only at Morrisons, Asda and Lidl.  That is why your support for overpriced Microsoft software came as such a surprise.  And having access to a pirate copy of Microsoft software doesn't count as an economic justification as they are illegal.

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Apart from when you need to open documents on the BT Wholesale website it would appear.

NGMsGhost wrote on Dec 20^th, 2008 at 7:54pm:


My copy of Word is a legitimate disc, given to me by a friend who has his own business and received the Word disc with an updated/new computer, I cannot remember the reason why now, but he did not want this Word disc so gave it to me, it is registered in my name! so stop making,(wrong), assumptions and calling me a pirate!

The very odd calls I have made to you,(I could count them on one hand), are made using that vehicle as usually it is an answerphone I receive so the call cost nothing, your refernce to the call I made last week, was actually a complete new Beta I was trying and I told you the calls cut out after a maximum of 10 minutes, if I had known you where to talk about everything under the sun,(again), I would have  used 18185 for a call of unlimited duration for the total cost of 5p.

"very difficult and lengthy cross examination." ? I don't think so, I was in the "box" for no more than 10 minutes,(at least that is what it felt like), and I cannot see how you would know how it affected me, I do and it didn't!

I am not actually supporting Microsoft, but the, legitimate, copy of Word I have suits me for what I need it for and am quite happy to continue to use it.

Whats is wrong with shopping at those supermarkets? Millions shop there every week,(are you a closet snob?), Morrisons is the 5th largest supermarket in the country, and as I have said, they are across the road, why not use them? Lidli and Aldi are within 2 miles of me, whilst my nearest Tesco and Asda are over 8 miles away, you do the maths.

Funny that, but it appears to be the only document that I have not been able to open!

Is this site looking to merge with the wholly worthwhile, but slightly different website, SayNotoMicrosoft.com; or perhaps, SayNotoFreeware.com, SayNotoRubbishSupermarkets.com, SayNotoOverpricedSupermarkets.com or even SayNotoFellowCampaigners.com?

Returning to the OP. Has anyone considered approaching the advertiser to see if perhaps they are genuinely unaware that what they were told by their telephone service provider is untrue.

I do not subscribe to the widespread belief that one can determine someone's moral standing simply from their choice of telephone number. I cannot see why a car dealer with a 0800 number is likely to be any different from one using 0843. If anything, the former is likely to be more expensive that the latter because of the need to cover higher marketing costs.

If one believes that everybody else in the world is crooked, exclusively seeking personal gain and out to do down everyone else, then that is not only sad, but also it makes campaigning with the intention of achieving any kind of success a complete waste of time.

SilentCallsVictim wrote on Dec 21^st, 2008 at 11:57am:



This publication is known to the ASA, via me and others complaining about various things, I have personally complained at least 4 times over the last 12 months re different advertisers and 0845 described as "local rate", the ASA have had words with them so they are totally aware.

SilentCallsVictim wrote on Dec 21^st, 2008 at 12:17pm:


When I spoke to someone at the ASA late last year or early this year, I got the impression that they where saying the publisher is responsible for the copy that goes into the paper and that they where to have words with them, obviously the words are not good enough, but irrespective of who is at fault, it is up to the ASA to solve the problem in this case, as I have previously said, the ASA have had problems with the advertising in this "newspaper".

Quite why this thread has gone off topic I do not know, I think it is time to draw a line and leave it with me to pursue the ASA, my OP was to clarify the 0843 number, and that has been done!