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spam text from 07551 312 744 - accident claims?
Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:32pm
 
i am a  newbie, please excuse me / move me if in wrong section..


'FREEMSG- our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the accident you had (i havent had any!)..

'to claim for free reply with YES to this message. top opt out text STOP'

wtf? never had an accident, and no idea how this (unidentified) firm got my details..
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Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:11pm
 
How do you know they have your details? Looks like a scam to me.  Huh
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Reply #2 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:24pm
 
paulbrighton2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 4:32pm:
i am a  newbie, please excuse me / move me if in wrong section..


'FREEMSG- our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the accident you had (i havent had any!)..

'to claim for free reply with YES to this message. top opt out text STOP'

wtf? never had an accident, and no idea how this (unidentified) firm got my details..


A friend had an almost identical text , from an unknown number.. I'd suggest you do the same as he did.. delete it...

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Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:30pm
 
The prefix 075513 is allocated to Vodafone, although this individual number may have been ported away. It could be worth reporting this to Vodafone.


Another thing is that some providers operate a SMS text number for forwarding spam to. Vodafone users can forward the message to 87726 (VSPAM) and Orange and O2 users can text to 7726 (SPAM).
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Reply #4 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:36pm
 
Dave how did you find out the original Networks prefix? If you don't want to put it in the forum, feel free to PM me...

also are those short codes standard rate to txt ?

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Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 8:05pm
 
Hi there!

I know for a fact that that 87726 (VSPAM) for Vodafone is free, so I would presume that the other number is free as well.

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Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:14pm
 
CJT-80 wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:36pm:
Dave how did you find out the original Networks prefix? If you don't want to put it in the forum, feel free to PM me...

Allocations for all UK phone numbers are published by Ofcom here.


CJT-80 wrote on Apr 12th, 2010 at 7:36pm:
also are those short codes standard rate to txt ?

Which ones? I note that the short codes don't appear on Ofcom's number allocations page, so perhaps they are not allocated by it and are a non-statutory agreement between the mobile networks.  Undecided
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Reply #7 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 9:35pm
 
the 2 short codes given for spam text's

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Reply #8 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 8:18am
 
thanks to all - any text number to report to Virgin (thats my network..)

afaik, sender only has my mobile number..
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Reply #9 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 7:31pm
 
paulbrighton2010 wrote on Apr 13th, 2010 at 8:18am:
thanks to all - any text number to report to Virgin (thats my network..)

It is free for 7726 and 87726 on Orange and Vodafone, respectively.

Orange information is here
Vodafone information is here


I've not found out the cost of texting or calling 7726 to O2 users.

I haven't found out whether T-Mobile or Virgin Mobile have a similar number for forwarding spam to. Pages that mention SMS spam don't mention a text number like the ones with the other providers.


paulbrighton2010 wrote on Apr 13th, 2010 at 8:18am:
afaik, sender only has my mobile number..

If they only have your number, then you have nothing to worry about. I think it is likely that they just sent the message to blocks of numbers, so it isn't so much a case of them "having" your number.

Unless you're going to respond with some more information, for example, your name, then a number is just a number. I would not even respond with STOP; not because I don't think it would do anything, but because they may well send you more as you were deceived into thinking it was real.
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Reply #10 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 11:19pm
 
I have had a number of these scam text messages from FREEMSG on at least three occasions several months apart on my formerly Vodafone and now Asda Mobile (number ported from Vodafone and underlying network still Vodafone) mobile phone.

FREEMSG is clearly sending out these messages on a massive scale and this rather begs the question as to why Vodafone does not have a spam filter in place to block them since they are clearly of criminal intent. Answer of course is because Vodafone earns more money out of the extra traffic in carrying them to you and out of the expensive reverse billed text message you might become signed up to if you responded positively to their message.  So unfortunately Vodafone they will not stop the messages arriving unless ordered to by Ofcom. Angry
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Reply #11 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:23am
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Apr 13th, 2010 at 11:19pm:
... unfortunately Vodafone they will not stop the messages arriving unless ordered to by Ofcom.

Even more unfortunately, the present government made such a mess of implementing the EU Privacy Directive in 2003 that this matter is not the responsibility of Ofcom, but of the Office of the Information Commissioner.

There is however comfort for Ofcom-haters in the manifesto of the party most likely to form the next government - abolition of all quangos, except for those exercising technical functions. If this commitment were to be fulfilled, it would leave Ofcom as a shadow of its former self, managing technical things like radio frequencies and perhaps telephone number ranges. (It may be that telephone numbers would not be considered "technical", and that we should be free to have whatever telephone number we want, rather than being told what to do by "nanny state".)

Most of the current staff of the Information Commissioner's Office would also be looking for more productive work that contributes to the economy, such as running state-funded private schools. It is proposed that the attention of the Information Commissioner be focused purely on giving citizens access to government. Any necessary regulation, i.e. that which does not stifle enterprise, would be carried out directly by government ministers, but only if it could be shown that a greater regulatory burden were being lifted at the same time.

We await the outcome of the general election to elect the members of a new parliament. Once that parliament sits, we will see what manifesto commitments are able to be implemented. Any revision to the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations, or Ofcom's duties and powers under the Communications Act (both of 2003) would require the approval of parliament. The champagne to toast the demise of Ofcom is perhaps best kept on ice for a while.

Whilst the regulations that are alleged to have led to a sense of national decline are still in place, the relevant red tape and bureaucracy is undertaken by the Information Commissioner's Office. As there appears to be a clear breach of the PECR, those who have received these unsolicited messages should present formal complaints there. I get relatively little SMS spam, so it could be that registration of mobile numbers with the TPS is worthwhile.


Before it is proposed that this forum be registered as a virtual "active neighbourhood group"  with membership restricted to those who either are, or not not, (I cannot quite work this out) supporters of the party in question, I must formally declare my non-aligned status in respect of political parties. I offer my own observations and comments on these complex matters from a truly independent perspective.

For the record, it is my understanding that all the major political parties have declared themselves as being against regulation in principle. There are however differences according not to the nature of the regulation, but where it originates, e.g. The Hague, Brussels, Whitehall, Holyrood etc., City Hall, the Town Hall, Quangos, populist measures such as petitions.
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Reply #12 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:53am
 
SilentCallsVictim wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:23am:
I get relatively little SMS spam, so it could be that registration of mobile numbers with the TPS is worthwhile.


My mobile number has long been registered with the TPS and the FREEMSG message has been notable as coming from about the only sender of such messages to ignore TPS registration.  It is in any case clearly criminal in nature by making deliberately false and highly misleading claims that you were involved in an accident to attempt to persuade vulnerable people to become subscribed to the endless stream of reverse billed text messages that would then no doubt ensue if a recipient responded positively to it.  My mother has an elderly friend with a psychological makeup that makes her vulnerable to all scams of this kind.  Fortunately my mother herself would never fall victim to such messages.
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Reply #13 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:59am
 
SilentCallsVictim wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:23am:
I must formally declare my non-aligned status in respect of political parties.


But have you also comprehensively declared your list of commercial alignments in carrying out any work on behalf of any governmental bodies or commercial organisations in the UK that are responsible for operating and earning revenue share from call centres. Roll Eyes

Also does your political non alignment mean that you never exercise your democratic right to vote and hence have little reason to complain about any governmental policy that may then be imposed upon you?  Or are you saying that you do vote but you frequently change your allegiance between the parties from election to election according to the policies that they are espousing on that occasion?
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Reply #14 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 10:14am
 
NGMsGhost wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:53am:
My mobile number has long been registered with the TPS and the FREEMSG message has been notable as coming from about the only sender of such messages to ignore TPS registration.

Thanks for pointing this out - clearly I am lucky to have been spared this nuisance.

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My mother has an elderly friend with a psychological makeup that makes her vulnerable to all scams of this kind.  Fortunately my mother herself would never fall victim to such messages.

This well made point highlights the vital issue. Any regulatory system for issues such as this that is based on aggregating numbers of complaints totally misses the point. Those who really suffer would rarely complain, those likely to complain have little personal reason for doing so. In my view, this is why we need regulators who do not have to be driven by popular pressure and why we cannot rely on citizens simply being "empowered". (That is where "SCV" came from; when I adopted the nickname I had long ceased being a "victim".)

NGMsGhost wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:59am:
have you also comprehensively declared your list of commercial alignments in carrying out any work on behalf of any governmental bodies or commercial organisations in the UK that are responsible for operating and earning revenue share from call centres.

I work, I buy stuff and I use public services. There is no relevant "commercial alignment" to be declared.

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Also does your political non alignment mean that you never exercise your democratic right to vote and hence have little reason to complain about any governmental policy that may then be imposed upon you?  Or are you saying that you do vote but you frequently change your allegiance between the parties from election to election according to the policies that they are espousing on that occasion?

I always exercise my right to vote. As this is done in private, I have no need to explain my decisions. Indeed, because it is private, we therefore have the right to lie about how we vote, so any discussion is purely academic. Having said that I always exercise my right to vote, I cannot even prove that, because I may invariably spoil the ballot paper.

As we are a democracy, any citizen is entitled to express opinions about the actions of government, regardless of whether or not they had any part in electing that government or its parliamentary opponents, or if they voted against the member that was elected. Furthermore, one does not even have to be directly affected to express an opinion on an issue of public policy.

I fear that these important principles, especially the latter, are too often put aside by those who do not share my view of democracy. There may be circumstances in which these factors could contribute to the weight to be applied to an opinion; however I believe that they are much lighter than is generally thought and are usually outweighed by the intrinsic merits of the idea expressed.

Under our system, voting in a parliamentary election is simply expressing a single preference from amongst the list of candidates to represent one's constituency in the House of Commons. Much else may be assumed, as many consequences may ensue, but this is all that one actually does.


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