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Talk Talk. Simply Broadband.
Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 5:51pm

TalkTalk have launched a cheap service for those who only need basic broadband and no calls. Known as Simply Broadband the service is only £2.50/mth plus line rental.
There's a 12-month contract.

You get 12 months' unlimited download broadband with speeds of up to 16Mb for £2.50/mth.

You have to take TalkTalk line rental. It's normally £15.40/mth but you can opt to pay £126 for a year upfront, equivalent to £10.50/mth.

If you pay the line rental upfront, the total package is £156 over the 12-month contract, equivalent to £13/mth.

If you need a new phone line you would normally pay a connection fee of £50 (currently half price at £25 for a limited time).

https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/broadband/simplybb

There is a Call limit: £20 a month unbilled call limit. If you exceed the call limit your line will be barred from making outgoing calls (excluding calls to the emergency services). You remain liable for call charges in excess of the £20 limit

All calls will be charged at the standard rate except calls to TalkTalk customers which are inclusive up to a max of 180 mins, then charged at standard rates.

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Dave Global Moderator Offline Posts: 9,902 Yorkshire Gender:	Re: Talk Talk. Simply Broadband. Reply #1 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 5:52pm Is this the first "naked ADSL" service?
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bbb_uk Global Moderator Offline Posts: 2,041	Re: Talk Talk. Simply Broadband. Reply #2 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 9:10pm Dave wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 5:52pm: Is this the first "naked ADSL" service? Looks that way. I never thought this would happen over here knowing how companies try and operate. The UK must be one of very few countries that haven't, until possibly now, adopted this. Hope it catches on
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Reply #3 - Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 11:28am

Dave wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 5:52pm:

Is this the first "naked ADSL" service?

After making this posting, bigjohn added a link giving more information. This is not naked ADSL.

Pricing information for SimplyBroadband, including call rates, is here.

The main points are:

Cost of the service:
- £17.90 per month (£15.40 line rental + £2.50) paid on a monthly basis, or;
- effectively £13 per month by paying 12 months' of line rental upfront for £126, plus the £2.50 per month.
Weekday daytime geographic, 03, 0845 and 0870 calls cost 9ppm + a 15p connection charge.
Evening and weekeing geographic, 03, 0845 and 0870 calls cost 1.53ppm + a 15p connection charge.
"Unlimited" downloads.
Call usage limit of £20.
Fibre broadband "up to 38Mbps" is an additional £10 and "up to 76Mbps" is £15 extra.
Add-ons in the form of "Boosts", including:
- Anytime UK calls for £5.50
- 100 landline to mobile minutes for £3

So, SimplyBroadband including anytime UK calls costs £8 per month (plus line rental). TalkTalk Plus offers anytime calls and ADSL broadband with "unlimited" download quantity for £15.50 per month. What else is included in the latter that may make the extra £7.50 worthwhile? Huh

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Reply #4 - Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 6:55pm

Could it not still be Naked ADSL? Could the calls be going through VoIP in which case it's still Naked ADSL.

I know it's probably not but at least TalkTalk are offering a good deal (compared to others out there) for those that just need a line for broadband purposes as calls go through mobile due to the good value tariffs out there compared to landlines!

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Dave Global Moderator Offline Posts: 9,902 Yorkshire Gender:	Re: Talk Talk. Simply Broadband. Reply #5 - Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 7:29pm It's definitely not naked ADSL. One reason why they might be doing it so cheaply is because of the uptake of fibre to the cabinet broadband which has resulted in the ADSL exchange equipment being used less and less. They are simply looking to generate some income on an investment that what would otherwise lie unused.
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bigjohn Supreme Member Offline Posts: 2,316 Gender:	Re: Talk Talk. Simply Broadband. Reply #6 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 2:11am Whilst Talk Talk Plus without TV still exists, it appears they only promote TalkTalk SimplyBroadband,TalkTalk Superpowered Fibre with SimplyBroadband and TalkTalk Plus TV, broadband and phone now. www.talktalk.co.uk
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Reply #7 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 10:59am

bbb_uk wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

Could it not still be Naked ADSL? Could the calls be going through VoIP in which case it's still Naked ADSL.

I know it's probably not but at least TalkTalk are offering a good deal (compared to others out there) for those that just need a line for broadband purposes as calls go through mobile due to the good value tariffs out there compared to landlines!

Technically "Naked ADSL/DSL" is provided without a phone line or at least without the commitment of a monthly line rental charge.

A Naked Broadband service technically exists in the form of Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) which does not require line rental to be taken as part of the service.

Just my 2p's worth.

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Reply #8 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 11:16am

CJT-80 wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 10:59am:

Technically "Naked ADSL/DSL" is provided without a phone line or at least without the commitment of a monthly line rental charge.

I think you meant "provided without a phone number or the ability to make calls" i.e. the line isn't made active for making phone calls on.

The only signal on the wiring is broadband.

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Reply #9 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 2:54pm

bigjohn wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 2:11am:

Whilst Talk Talk Plus without TV still exists, it appears they only promote TalkTalk SimplyBroadband,TalkTalk Superpowered Fibre with SimplyBroadband and TalkTalk Plus TV, broadband and phone now.

www.talktalk.co.uk

Thanks bigjohn. I confess I too noted that from the homepage there appears no way one would learn of TalkTalk Plus, yet SimplyBroadband is there.

I would be interested in hearing of any distinguishing features of SimplyBroadband + Anytime UK Calls vs TalkTalk Plus. As I say, the former is £8 and the latter is £15.50 (both plus line rental).

The only difference I can see is is the limit of £20 on calls for SimplyBroadband.

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Reply #10 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

Ian G wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

CJT-80 wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 10:59am:

Technically "Naked ADSL/DSL" is provided without a phone line or at least without the commitment of a monthly line rental charge.

I think you meant "provided without a phone number or the ability to make calls" i.e. the line isn't made active for making phone calls on.

The only signal on the wiring is broadband.

Clearly you appear to know more about it than I appear to know!

My point was that as far as I am aware, you have to pay a "line rental" in order to have ADSL Broadband and Fibre Broadband in the UK.

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Reply #11 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 5:59pm

CJT-80 wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 10:59am:

Technically "Naked ADSL/DSL" is provided without a phone line or at least without the commitment of a monthly line rental charge.

A Naked Broadband service technically exists in the form of Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) which does not require line rental to be taken as part of the service.

Just my 2p's worth.

for ADSL an actual line has to go from exchange to your house hence the need for landline. The difference for Naked ADSL is, in this circumstances, is an actual line is still there but the facility to make calls isn't possible via POTS.

I believe calls can still be offered but via VOIP.

Yes, FTTP has no landline needed but it's probably cheaper to get FTTC with landline than FTTP. However, I admit I haven't checked this.

A similar thing happened with VM broadband. They charged so much for just broadband that it was cheaper to get non-VM landline and ADSL/FTTC broadband.

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