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Reply #15 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:19pm
 
Brexiteers will doubtless be quick to support Dublin in not kowtowing to Brussels in the way that London did.

They may also look forward to the exercise. related to the "Great Repeal Bill", that will remove secondary legislation derived from EU Directives (e.g. the Consumer Contract Regulations) from UK law.

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Reply #16 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 3:30pm
 

The Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has ruled that calls to an after-sale service line must not cost more than the cost of a standard call to a landline or mobile number.

See https://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2017/march/cost-of-after-sales-call-must-not...

This clearly precludes the use of numbers starting 1850, 1890, 0818 or 076.

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Reply #17 - Mar 16th, 2017 at 9:57pm
 

The CJEU publication of judgement can be found here: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/p1_294576

That document additionally links to original court documents.

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Reply #18 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 11:18am
 

ComReg is changing the rules on call charges for certain non-geographic numbers from 1 December 2019.

Numbers starting 1850, 1890, 0818 and 076 will change to be inclusive in allowances on landlines and on mobiles on the same basis as calls to Irish landline numbers, or otherwise charged at the same rate as calling an Irish landline number. This will make them somewhat equivalent to how 03 numbers work in the UK.

A few years after that change, the 1850, 1890 and 076 number ranges will be withdrawn from use on 1 December 2022, leaving just the 0818 number range for this purpose. All users of 1850, 1890 and 076 numbers who wish to continue using a non-geographic number will need to migrate to a brand new number in the 0818 range before that date.

Separately, the 1800 number range will remain as the single freephone number range.

Premium rate numbers are unaffected by these changes. These are the numbers starting 15xx, where xx gives a clue as to the likely call charge.

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Re: UN-Fair Telecoms in the Republic of Ireland
Reply #19 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:55am
 
Ian01 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 11:18am:
ComReg is changing the rules on call charges for certain non-geographic numbers from 1 December 2019.


As usual the forces of commerce take years to comply with any attempt to end their nice little scams and then only do so at the point of a regulatory gun.  Meanwhile they will come up with new scams such as pushing up the cost of landline phone rental to make up the shortfall in their large directors salaries and bonuses........
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Re: UN-Fair Telecoms in the Republic of Ireland
Reply #20 - Oct 10th, 2019 at 8:38pm
 

Backtracking to 2018, there's an interesting and useful analysis of the 2014 consumer protection changes as they were applied in Ireland, here:

https://deryck.blog/2018/02/08/sky-high-call-charges-0818-basicrate-directives/

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